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re: What Is Your School's Flagship On Campus Enrollment For Fall?
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:36 am to Windy City
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:36 am to Windy City
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if Texas had 10+ highly credentialed awesome alternatives to the Flagship campuses, go for it.
We don't though and I can totally see the argument for cutting down Texas's share of the PUF to invest in other areas at this point.
I would argue that there is 1. UT Dallas. UTD os probably the best situated to become the third flagship campus in Texas. Great academics, very high quality student body, and in the heart of DFW.
My issue is they will always be secod fiddle to UT Austin of they stay in the UT system. I'd like to see UTD carved out as a standalone flagship with it's own Board of Regents, and given a cut of the PUF.
That would give Texas students a third flaghip option, in an extremely high growth job market, and take a lot of pressure off of A&M (and UT too, although they've escaped a lot of that pressure already by capping their admissions).
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:40 am to FishFearMe
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Texas A&M 73,284 in College Station
It’s actually 66,800 for the main campus! We have become a diploma mill. Gag me!!
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:40 am to KCM0Tiger
Google is your friend (OP) (First number is total, second is Men, third is women. University Stats (2020)
Student Population Comparison Between Colleges In Southeastern Conference (SEC)
The University of Alabama 38,100 16,612 21,488
Auburn University 30,460 15,538 14,922
University of Arkansas 27,559 12,840 14,719
University of Florida 52,407 23,244 29,163
University of Georgia 38,920 16,422 22,498
University of Kentucky 29,402 12,849 16,553
Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College 31,756 14,682 17,074
University of Mississippi 21,617 9,306 12,311
Mississippi State University 22,226 11,133 11,093
University of Missouri-Columbia 30,014 13,533 16,481
University of South Carolina-Columbia 35,364 15,870 19,494
The University of Tennessee-Knoxville 29,460 14,188 15,272
Vanderbilt University 13,131 5,815 7,316
Texas A & M University-College Station 68,726 36,604 32,122
Total 469,142 218,636 250,506
FYI, this shows the trend of more females than men going to college. Nationally it is close to 60/40
Student Population Comparison Between Colleges In Southeastern Conference (SEC)
The University of Alabama 38,100 16,612 21,488
Auburn University 30,460 15,538 14,922
University of Arkansas 27,559 12,840 14,719
University of Florida 52,407 23,244 29,163
University of Georgia 38,920 16,422 22,498
University of Kentucky 29,402 12,849 16,553
Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College 31,756 14,682 17,074
University of Mississippi 21,617 9,306 12,311
Mississippi State University 22,226 11,133 11,093
University of Missouri-Columbia 30,014 13,533 16,481
University of South Carolina-Columbia 35,364 15,870 19,494
The University of Tennessee-Knoxville 29,460 14,188 15,272
Vanderbilt University 13,131 5,815 7,316
Texas A & M University-College Station 68,726 36,604 32,122
Total 469,142 218,636 250,506
FYI, this shows the trend of more females than men going to college. Nationally it is close to 60/40
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:44 am to ColoradoAg
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That's a lot of future donors to the Foundation!
FIFY. That's a lot of people with student debt and no means to pay for it in the future.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:45 am to Krampus
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I would argue that there is 1. UT Dallas. UTD os probably the best situated to become the third flagship campus in Texas. Great academics, very high quality student body, and in the heart of DFW.
My issue is they will always be secod fiddle to UT Austin of they stay in the UT system. I'd like to see UTD carved out as a standalone flagship with it's own Board of Regents, and given a cut of the PUF.
That would give Texas students a third flaghip option, in an extremely high growth job market, and take a lot of pressure off of A&M (and UT too, although they've escaped a lot of that pressure already by capping their admissions).
Yeah, my god-daughter just graduated from UTD. Her parents are huge Longhorns and she got caught up in a wired transcript issue as they moved to Nashville for her junior year and that screwed up her eligibility even though she graduated from a North Texas 6A school.
She was offered a high probability spot in Austin if she kept a minimum GPA and certain courses for a year at UTD. She ended up really loving her experience at UTD, studied engineering, joined a sorority and other extra-curricular clubs, got a paid gig at the new Toyota campus while she studied, and just graduated and joined Toyota full time.
That sort of system should definitely be in place outside of Austin and B/CS.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:46 am to Mulkey Man
Aggies not cranking out kids with worthless social justice warrior degrees like UT-Austin
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:46 am to Mulkey Man
Have you seen what the average A&M student makes out of college? It's pretty good
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:47 am to Windy City
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She was offered a high probability spot in Austin if she kept a minimum GPA and certain courses for a year at UTD. She ended up really loving her experience at UTD, studied engineering, joined a sorority and other extra-curricular clubs, got a paid gig at the new Toyota campus while she studied, and just graduated and joined Toyota full time.
What a fantastic gig.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:48 am to ColoradoAg
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Have you seen what the average A&M student makes out of college? It's pretty good
I know that's true for our generation, but you have to wonder what will happen with the current group of students. I suspect the average earnings will drop significantly. Not to mention the freshmen being admitted who should not be there.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:52 am to Mulkey Man
I don't know. I keep hearing about the average salaries dropping but I simply don't see it. Those that are "educated" (have a Bachelor's) still seem to have no problem with a good living. Unless they went to school for something stupid
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:53 am to Mulkey Man
University of Arkansas (at Fayetteville):
Fall 2021
29,068 total
24,264 undergrad
6,064 in Freshman class (new record)
LINK
Medical school is a separate entity. There's a secondary law school campus in Little Rock as well. Systemwide we are probably around 60k.
I can't imagine having that many students on one campus.
Fall 2021
29,068 total
24,264 undergrad
6,064 in Freshman class (new record)
LINK
Medical school is a separate entity. There's a secondary law school campus in Little Rock as well. Systemwide we are probably around 60k.
I can't imagine having that many students on one campus.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:56 am to ColoradoAg
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I don't know. I keep hearing about the average salaries dropping but I simply don't see it. Those that are "educated" (have a Bachelor's) still seem to have no problem with a good living. Unless they went to school for something stupid
Average salaries are definitely dropping in the US compared to COL. This is statistical fact. Historically low interest rates are masking the implications for now. People are just going into more cheap debt to maintain standard of living as compared to prior generations. Wait until interest rates rise, and we will see the impact of decades of wage stagnation hit all at once.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:02 am to Krampus
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Average salaries are definitely dropping in the US compared to COL. This is statistical fact. Historically low interest rates are masking the implications for now. People are just going into more cheap debt to maintain standard of living as compared to prior generations. Wait until interest rates rise, and we will see the impact of decades of wage stagnation hit all at once.
So I work in and around economic research for my career, and this claim has been debunked a few times.
There are 6 or 7 different ways to look at wage stagnation and most all of them outside the traditional progressive think tank approach of Avg Hourly Wage Earned deflated by CPI (an approach with a lot of flaws) show consistently rising inflation adjusted wages since the mid 90s.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:06 am to ColoradoAg
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I don't know. I keep hearing about the average salaries dropping but I simply don't see it. Those that are "educated" (have a Bachelor's) still seem to have no problem with a good living. Unless they went to school for something stupid
I know a lot of folks who don't even have any college and are living just fine.
Anyone can be successful if they simply show up to their of place employment, behave professionally, get work done, keep an eye out for better opportunities, and make good, personal financial decisions.
And stay out of debt as much as possible.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:06 am to allin2010
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University of Georgia
Total - 38,920
Men - 16,422
Women - 22,498
I'd kill to be 18 years old again.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:07 am to Mulkey Man
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Have you seen what the average A&M student makes out of college? It's pretty good
I know that's true for our generation, but you have to wonder what will happen with the current group of students. I suspect the average earnings will drop significantly. Not to mention the freshmen being admitted who should not be there.
Not at A&M. Over 90% of students are in state and the in state tuition is very reasonable. If you come from a low income family you are also very likely to get a LOT of assistance. A&M also is consistently rated at the top along with Penn State by recruiters. We have a relatively small Liberal Arts school and have poured stupid money into Engineering and Business. A&M is cranking out grads but they are increasing the quality of education, that's where all that money the school has goes.
Did a tour of the Engineering school and it is mind boggling. This is just the main Engineering building and then each Discipline has it's own separate building (Biomedical, Civil, Petroleum, Electrical, CS, etc). Engineering Building Tour
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:12 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:Absolutely! Most kids simply don't know how to handle the extra money a degree gives them, and make some really stupid financial decisions
Anyone can be successful if they simply show up to their of place employment, behave professionally, get work done, keep an eye out for better opportunities, and make good, personal financial decisions.
And stay out of debt as much as possible.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:18 am to ColoradoAg
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Absolutely! Most kids simply don't know how to handle the extra money a degree gives them, and make some really stupid financial decisions
I think that's a problem across the board.
Most Americans have no concept of good financial self discipline.
They also generally aren't willing to make short term sacrifices for long term gain.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:19 am to SidewalkTiger
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What Is Your School's Flagship On Campus Enrollment For Fall?
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I don't know. I keep hearing about the average salaries dropping but I simply don't see it. Those that are "educated" (have a Bachelor's) still seem to have no problem with a good living. Unless they went to school for something stupid
I know a lot of folks who don't even have any college and are living just fine.
Anyone can be successful if they simply show up to their of place employment, behave professionally, get work done, keep an eye out for better opportunities, and make good, personal financial decisions.
And stay out of debt as much as possible.
Completely agree but there is still a purpose for college. You just need to make sure you look at the ROI. If you go to a Private school (especially one that isn't an Ivy level) and get a Liberal Arts degree you are never going to make that money back. Same with most LA Degrees if you don't have a plan (Law School, Grad School, etc) and you really should have some scholarship money.
Getting an Engineering or Business Degree from a quality school is still a very good investment. Lots of specialties that are good investments as well, especially at a Public School with in state tuition.
It's also not always a good idea to go to the best school you can be accepted into. Have a friend who's daughter got into Vanderbilt. She decided to go to A&M in Honors Biology. Why? A&M was $10k per year, Vandy was going to cost about $70k. There is simply no way you are making up a quarter of a million dollar delta in cost for an undergrad degree. She's graduating in December from A&M in 3 and a half years with a 3.96 and going to PA school with no debt yet.
Still for a LOT of kids the best thing they can do is go to trade school or join the military or just get a job. Or just go to JUCO. After they make some money for a few years decide if they need that degree. The problem is so many kids look at college as 13th grade except no parents and a better social scene. If you are doing that at $50k per year you are going to be screwed.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:21 am to FishFearMe
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Texas A&M 73,284 in College Station
That’s the largest population of its kind outside of San Francisco.
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