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re: What Is Your School's Flagship On Campus Enrollment For Fall?

Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:21 am to
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:21 am to
Holy shite at the new engineering building! Going to need to show this to some of my neighbors kids that are interested in engineering.

Wow, how much money went into that building ...
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 11:23 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:59 am to
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Holy shite at the new engineering building! Going to need to show this to some of my neighbors kids that are interested in engineering.

Wow, how much money went into that building ...


Pretty impressive, even if it's modernist.

Arkansas is building an $89 million dollar building to house the Institute for Integrative and Innovative Research (I3R). I believe it will be the most expensive academic building ever built on campus.

This should hugely increase research on campus and primarily seek to connect research conducted with the marketplace. I.E. get stuff designed or patented here that will make money.

Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Texas A&M 73,284 in College Station



That’s the largest population of its kind outside of San Francisco.


Now THAT is high quality troll work. Upvote to you!
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:06 pm to
Arkie is doing some great work on investing in the school and the entire region of NWA.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:08 pm to
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Holy shite at the new engineering building! Going to need to show this to some of my neighbors kids that are interested in engineering.

Wow, how much money went into that building ...


$228 Million.
Posted by AUreo
Member since Jul 2021
2048 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:29 pm to
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TLDR. A&M is really big but it isn't a Diploma Mill


Of course not. Most people here have no idea, probably never graduated from college. TAMU is serving its state by educating students and producing research output. The U.S. needs tons of engineers and scientists, TAMU is exactly doing this, producing STEM graduates. Perhaps, some people would be happier if even more Chinese engineers and scientists came to the U.S. instead...
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted by AUreo
Member since Jul 2021
2048 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Still for a LOT of kids the best thing they can do is go to trade school or join the military or just get a job. Or just go to JUCO. After they make some money for a few years decide if they need that degree.


College is for rich kids, esp. when attending major national universities, incl. SEC schools. Plenty of TX and GA kids here at Auburn paying out-of-state fees. Not sure who will be able to afford all of this in the future.

MONEY
In 18 years, a college degree could cost about $500,000

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Posted by PrattvilleTiger
Prattville Al
Member since May 2020
1739 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:08 pm to
You guys have lost a lot of your culture, man. I'm not saying this as a "hater" being an Auburn grad, but Tuscaloosa is so different now. 60% of these students aren't from Alabama. I've driven around Alabama's campus some over the last few years and seen kids wear Minnesota, Duke, Michigan, Cal paraphernalia among others. Just so odd seeing that.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 3:44 pm
Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
898 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:02 pm to
Enrollment as a percentage of state population:

Vanderbilt University 0.19%
Texas A & M University 0.24%
University of Florida 0.24%
University of Georgia 0.37%
The University of Tennessee 0.43%
University of Missouri 0.49%
Auburn University 0.62%
University of Kentucky 0.66%
Louisiana State University 0.68%
University of South Carolina 0.69%
University of Mississippi 0.73%
Mississippi State University 0.75%
The University of Alabama 0.78%
University of Arkansas 0.91%

A&M's enrollment isn't extraordinary given how many people live in Texas.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41307 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:21 pm to
UF is getting crazy big now up to 60k Students.

UF Enrollment hits record high

About 4,500 are online though, so campus is about 56k.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:29 pm to
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A&M's enrollment isn't extraordinary given how many people live in Texas.


Yeah, Texas is crazy big in population, which is part of why Arkansas has grown so much the past 10 years. Most Arkansas students are still from Arkansas. 53%. The last two freshman classes have been majority OOS, though.



Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:31 pm to
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The endowment dollars per student is actually about the same between Texas-Austin and A&M in the end.


You keep saying this. Source?
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:49 pm to
Alabama having 60; percent OOS is too many. Most of those kids will not stay in Alabama after graduation and many will not give back to the schools endowment
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:55 pm to
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Why wouldn't we want Texas to become stricter/more prestigious? UT was pretty strict when I applied 12 years ago...multiple people from my class got into A&M & didn't even get waitlisted at Texas.


A major petroleum company, one of the largest employers of Engineers in the state of Texas doesn't even recruit tu anymore. They found the tu Engineers didn't have the grit to doggedly work on difficult problems. Must be a soft program.

So the tu 6% getting participation award based grades aren't the hot stuff you think they are.

I went to a private HS and now would not have made the 10% to be admitted to Texas A&M. But I got in years ago, learned how to get by on very little sleep and got an Engineering degree. And I have given back.



This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 7:58 pm
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
869 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:01 pm to
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Posted by AU_Plainsman
Member since Apr 2019
447 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:35 pm to
I must say,

This thread has been very productive. This topic is not easily answered.

Everyone has given a fair opinion, as we should.

We are dealing with our Kids going forward, and we all acknowledge that.

Very good points by all.



Posted by SillyGoose
College Station, TX
Member since Sep 2021
4 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:23 pm to
When I applied to schools in 2018 I had a 4.8/5.0 GPA, 1340 SAT, and a 28 ACT. I wasn’t top 10% of my HS graduating class so I wasn’t an auto-admit anywhere in Texas. Applied to A&M, Texas, Rice, Southwestern, and U of H. I got accepted by all except Rice.

A&M is a massive school with a huge campus. Takes me about 15 minutes to walk from the parking garage to most buildings. The sidewalks are similarly packed to my 5A high school of 1800 kids in busier areas of campus. I study geology here and 95% of my classes have about 12 students or less, but all the university prereq’s are about 200-500 in a giant lecture hall.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 12:05 am to
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The endowment dollars per student is actually about the same between Texas-Austin and A&M in the end.



You keep saying this. Source?


The source is math.

Texas has the following schools that are considered PUF (Permanent University Fund) schools and get a portion of the endowment. Not every school in each System is part of the PUF but most of the UT System schools are and only a couple of the small A&M System schools are (the rest have their own endowments). This doesn't include the Hospital systems or the various government systems like the Forest service or Texas Transportation Institute.:

UT:
Austin (51k)
Dallas (29k)
El Paso (25k)
San Antonio (34k)
Arlington (43k)
Permian Basin (7k)
RGV (32k)
Tyler (10k)

Total: 231k
Endowment $30 Billion
$129k per student

A&M:
College Station/Galveston/Qatar (73k)
Prairie View (9k)
Tarleton (14k)

Total: 96k
Endowment: 13 Billion
$135k per student

There are a lot of other factors to consider of course and the money isn't quite divided that way but it's fairly close. A&M and Texas also have part of their endowments that are not related to the PUF and they get additional state funding annually. The PUF money is also very restricted in terms of what it can be spent on. Still the fact that money serves about 330k students (about half of all college students in Texas) is why A&M and Texas can keep their 2/3rd and 1/3rd arrangement and squeeze out all the other Texas Public schools from that sweet, sweet PUF money.

The key though is it isn't like Texas in Austin really has $30 Billion and A&M has $13 Billion making Texas much richer. The UT SYSTEM has that money and a PART of the A&M SYSTEM has that money. In the end both schools have as much as they need and quite a bit more.

Thank God they gifted all that worthless land in West Texas to the PUF in the 1800s and found black gold underneath it.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80115 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 12:19 am to
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The source is math.


Math is RACIST!
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 12:37 am to
This bigger is better mentality is stupid . ND has just under 9K undergrads and is considered on of the most selective schools in the country.
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