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re: What if LSU was not located in Baton Rouge?

Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:48 pm to
Baton Rouge would be a complete shite hole....there would be no buffer to separate the trash from the non-trash and the non-trash would find it easier to move out thus giving the trash free reign over the whole city.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:50 pm to
BR would be like Jackson or any other medium sized city in the south. Utter garbage. Basically Alexandria
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

What’s the pros of a big city?



Titty bars!!!!!
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17155 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 2:43 pm to
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Lafayette, Hammond or possibly Covington


I cannot wrap my head around living in those cities. BR is what it is because of LSU. Could maybe see New Orleans, but that is it.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23051 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 2:50 pm to
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I don’t consider Baton Rouge a big city.

There are 50 states. Baton Rouge is the 70th largest metro area.

It’s not small. FACTS
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23051 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 2:59 pm to
If Bama was in Tuscaloosa it would be pretty much the same.

Baton Rouge and LSU are synonymous.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6832 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 3:06 pm to
too much to think about here.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 3:14 pm to
Idk I didn’ treally go around 99% of BR.

LSU always felt like a small town in and of itself.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 3:15 pm
Posted by BrandoCo
Member since Sep 2015
376 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 3:30 pm to
Are any of those places surrounded by a ghetto like LSU? Baton Rouge is a scary place to raise a family, unless you live on the outer edge of BR yet claim to still live there.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:33 pm to
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re any of those places surrounded by a ghetto like LSU?


THIS

Wrote my first research paper for my major on this very topic, as LSU relates to all of the changes in location.

Baton Rouge is perfect, its the location within Baton Rouge that has only gotten worse everyday since they moved it from downtown. Hindsight is 20/20 but if the campus was North of the current location and directly south of downtown BR it would be perfect. Previous campus would have never had the room for sustainable and effective growth needed for a flagship right in the heart of downtown.

Downtown BR struggles just like some of the other southern capitol cities (Jackson, Montgomery, to a much lesser extent Little Rock and Tallhassee.) But it could have been much much better for the entire city, state, and university if there was no gap between downtown and the borders of campus that has always been low income trashy single housing.

If the campus was a little bit closer to the river and against downtown, not only would the downtown BR nightlife and food scene be incredible but no Tigerland (Will forever love it still). Downtown living real estate would easily be doubled in value, but the main positive is all of the thousands of quick build campus apartments that have engulfed the campus on all sides would be gone or very very little. After 4-5 years max, now it seems its 2-3 years of the complexes putting zero upkeep in them they sell them and turn it into Section 8, then just build more and more. They are making money hand over fist but the traffic will only get worse (Already the worst planned transportation SEC town or city) crime will continue to rise, and truthfully LSU will slowly lose a few more of the wealthier legacies that want to go out of state because it is come to that.

With LSU being the flagship and no competition its ideal for the campus to be centrally located but close enough to New Orleans to keep it New Orleans hometown school. Baton Rouge has always had advantages geographically than Jackson or Montgomery or we would be as bad off, with the port, major interstate connection, and the government, it will never get Jackson bad too much money in industry, oil, and corruption for it to come to that.

Everything would be enhanced, no donwsides because traffic and overcrowding cant get any worse. LSU has this "water campus" bs that is a nice way of saying hopefully by like the year 2050 they can buy up and build through that swath of low income housing and the outer reaches of the new campus would be fairly close to downtown. But at the rate the apartments are being built and Baton Rouge is now completely run by incompetent zebras and it will only get worse, the water campus is wishful thinking.

Will try and post the pic from the thesis have Tiger Stadium right next to downtown closer to the river than its current spot, PMAC is downtown next to the river center, obviously hope we would have a Rupp or KFC Yum center look with a huge convention center. Alex Box is built up overlooking the river much like PNC park which was probably the coolest part of the design.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 4:55 pm
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Baton Rouge would be a complete shite hole....there would be no buffer to separate the trash from the non-trash and the non-trash would find it easier to move out thus giving the trash free reign over the whole city.



It already is man, it already is, look around not a whole lot of buffers left. Baton Rouge without LSU would never reach Jackson levels because of the petrochemical, oil, gas, and shipping industries. As well as the river at the very least cuts one side from completely engulfing the city in a 360 degree radius.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 4:56 pm
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:53 pm to
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LSU always felt like a small town in and of itself.


Baton Rouge especially after Katrina is just a huge sprawling suberb with a few pockets that feel city like. Downtown is tiny for a city of our size with having 3 major economic engines, in terms of business, size, height and price of development. The big industry north of Baton Rouge might give BR a more rust belt midwest city sized feel if not for the fact there is literally no reason for anyone that does not work there or is driving to the airport or north to go that way, its a huge slum and a drain on the entire nation. Also across the river because of history and agriculture and now traffic, the west side has never been developed like some other cities split by a river with the low income trash on one side and everything else another. White flight in terms of real numbers and wealth has never gone to that side. So BR "the city" is really about 7 or 8 different areas that get further divided even all right next to each other. With zero planning, infrastructure, leadership, or vision it will only get worse.

Best bet is 25-30 down the road, a new MS river bridge is built at the very bottom of the parish and south BR what will be a new city St. George becomes a viable large stand alone city, where the residents use whats needed in BR and can be as free as they can of the mayor/pres and basically give up any hope of major development and settle for safety, a small pocket of decent public education and breathing room.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2211 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:55 pm to
I can't stop laughing at the OP who thinks Baton Rouge is a big city.

Boy...you gotta get out more.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24745 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:57 pm to
Bossier City Bengals.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:03 pm to
It definitely not, hope he meant relative to most of the other SEC campus locations. Nashville is much bigger, but Vandy is tiny both in the size of the campus, economic impact, and student body size.

Baton Rouge and Knoxville I would say are probably the largest "cities" of the SEC campuses excluding Vandy. But even then neither are what I would consider "big cities" or have a big city feel. Obviously since I have posted damn near half a novel in a row my feeling is BR is perfect for LSU, but the location is terrible and IMO is the reason BR can never and never developed in any other way positively.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:14 pm to
Out of all of the SEC potential change in locations the most interesting discussion, is what if after the civil war Ole Miss had been relocated to Biloxi/Mississippi City (Gulfport today).

There was very real discussions, and while the Biloxi/Gulfport metro area is only about 250,000 people. Would be cool to think how it might change the dynamic, Ole Miss would be extremely close to New Orleans, Mobile/South Alabama, and already do a pretty decent job with certain major feeder South MS high schools but would then probably not have to fight as hard with State in a very underrated and fertile recruiting area.

Beaches are sh*t always have been, but with the casinos, Keesler, and believe it or not some shipping is returning to Gulfport the entire coast would be a lot better. Every south ms non athlete that just goes to college, pretty much has family ties when they are born to either Ole Miss, State, or LSU (Lot more than people realize). Then obviously certain majors with the difference in schools may force a kid to State or OM, USM is a distant third and JUCOs are even relatively very far from the coast populations.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12870 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:15 pm to
For grad programs there are many advantages to being in a bigger city. Helps to attract and retain faculty as well. I personally think Oxford and Tuscaloosa suck. Kind of boring. Athens is fun because of its music scene and not far from Atlanta.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 6:39 pm to
Seems like more of you prefer a city location opposed to a medium sized location such as Lafayette. Weird
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7909 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 6:46 pm to
Baton Rouge reminds me of what Alabama would be if they were in Birmingham. I feel like Monroe would be the Tuscaloosa equivalent. And then the equivalent to say a Mississippi College Town would be Hammond. Which I certainly enjoy.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 6:54 pm to
What if Louisiana had counties instead of parishes.

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