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re: What do you guys think Fisher's chances are of making it to the playoff or even winning

Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:34 am to
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:34 am to
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If I had to bet, I'd bet he never sees the CFP again.


Wow, you're a risk taker.

Since most coaches go the CFP all the time.

I still think A&M might have made a better decision by picking a coach earlier in his career who could grow a program. But this route was probably the next best choice.

Just because he probably won't reach the CFP doesn't mean that they aren't making the best play.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 11:05 am to
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He'll make A&M better I believe. They'll have some double digit wins seasons again.


If he pops up say three ten plus win seasons in six years, and five top ten recruiting classes in that time, he will have earned every dime of his contract.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30208 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 11:14 am to
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If he pops up say three ten plus win seasons in six years, and five top ten recruiting classes in that time, he will have earned every dime of his contract.
Well hell, Gus Malzhan's doing that at Auburn and his new contract is a freaking discount compared to Jimbo's.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50309 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 11:20 am to
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I still think A&M might have made a better decision by picking a coach earlier in his career who could grow a program. But this route was probably the next best choice.


If options are young up and comer vs proven coach then the proven (national title, kept FSU at a high level for years proven) coach should be more likely to get you to where you want to be. The issue with most proven coaches is they don't want to leave and no one can afford them.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15372 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 11:35 am to
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I don't believe Saban stays more than five years
They've been saying that for 10 years now
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 11:52 am to
I think he'll make A&m a stronger program and probably eventually beat LSJ but I don't seem him ever winning the SEC and will be out at Texas a&m before the contract is up. There's just bad flags with Jimbo now.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Well hell, Gus Malzhan's doing that at Auburn and his new contract is a freaking discount compared to Jimbo's.


Not that much of a discount.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50309 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:07 pm to
500k a year?
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 5:05 pm to
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If options are young up and comer vs proven coach then the proven (national title, kept FSU at a high level for years proven) coach should be more likely to get you to where you want to be. The issue with most proven coaches is they don't want to leave and no one can afford them.


Ah, it's my Stanford bias. A&M did not really develop an identify under Sumlin, other than to have some exciting players. I'm thinking developing an identity is what you do first, then add the plug and play coach if you have to to take the final step. So under Harbaugh/Shaw, Stanford developed the rep of getting big linemen and tight ends and getting them in to the NFL. If Stanford alumni were as hungry as Aggie alumni and Stanford could pay the big bucks, a proven coach coming into that scenario could draft off the pre-existing identity as well as use his own reputation as a guru to lock down the playoffs.

Then again, maybe I'm just underestimating the fact that Oregon and USC were in decline as Stanford improved.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8997 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 5:11 pm to
He's guaranteed 75 million. That's not pay to get to the CFP, that's pay to win it.

A&M is betting he'll win it, if not once, multiple times.

He's already been twice. I seem to be one of the few betting against him, especially if you look at the media's take.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8997 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 5:13 pm to
Not what he's hired to do. Will the fanbase be happy with that? For awhile maybe. Look at Mark Richt. Of course Richt did win the conference twice in his first 5 years.
Posted by Atxgump
Austin
Member since Nov 2015
3982 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 5:18 pm to
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He's the second best coach in the west so if Saban retires anytime soon it'll be his to lose


About like chizik, had an amazing qb and talent, without that he sucks
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 5:28 pm to
That Barn team was 7-5 without Da Cam.

Jimbo is in a good situation going forward. The question for 2018 is how many talented players does Jimbo have on his roster that will saddle up and play the way Jimbo and staff will demand of them for 2018? I assume Jimbo will have his 2018 version of Junction this spring. Cull those that can't be converted to tuff football. Sumlin was the King of Soft football teams.

We'll see.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 6:00 pm to
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Should I just post Auburn sucks 4,500 times



yes
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 6:01 pm to
Georgia posters everyone
Posted by bfpri
Member since Jul 2014
626 posts
Posted on 3/2/18 at 6:12 pm to
Second best recruiter probably . Not the second best coach .
Posted by BamaWins15
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 11:35 pm to
7.4%
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/3/18 at 2:09 am to
0%
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 2:59 am to
Within a few years the West wil be between Bama and Aggie every year. LSU is falling fast and 4-loss Gus had two miracles go his way and peaked in 2013.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8997 posts
Posted on 3/3/18 at 3:20 am to
I knew someone was gonna do that.
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