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re: What do ALabama fans really think of their new OC?
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:50 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:50 pm to SidewalkTiger
People don’t seem to understand that any OC has to run Bama’s offense - there is a madness to what Saban wants. He is the authority. No one is above him. Now he allows people to work and call plays within his system on their own - just like any good manager/director/CEO does. If they don’t, he’ll yell some and make a change. Simple as that.
Saban changed when he let Kiffen do more wide open stuff. BOB and Sark called it Bama’s offense while there.
It’s always been Bama’s D. Pruitt and Kirby were just a lot better at running it than DUI.
Saban changed when he let Kiffen do more wide open stuff. BOB and Sark called it Bama’s offense while there.
It’s always been Bama’s D. Pruitt and Kirby were just a lot better at running it than DUI.
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:56 pm to Bham4Tide
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People don’t seem to understand that any OC has to run Bama’s offense
This makes no sense.
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:58 pm to RelentlessTide
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Hard to say, but Saban has made unspectacular hires in the past that worked out (McElwain comes to mind).
Spectacular coaches will never be as important as spectacular players.
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
I don't think people understand what the whole "Saban's offense" thing is.
In reality it's 2 things:
(A) a general philosophical structure in terms of block scheme, core formations, etc
(B) Terminology. This is the biggest thing. Saban decided to start requiring all his OCs to adapt their "system" to "our" terminology to ensure that losing an OC after 1 year doesn't mean the kids have to learn entirely new terminology.
The formations/play design/etc can be very different and has been (Lane to Locks to DaBoll to Sark to BoB all had clear differences).
The biggest thing is terminology and structuring of the formsational stuff. That was apparently a big issue for BoB.
In reality it's 2 things:
(A) a general philosophical structure in terms of block scheme, core formations, etc
(B) Terminology. This is the biggest thing. Saban decided to start requiring all his OCs to adapt their "system" to "our" terminology to ensure that losing an OC after 1 year doesn't mean the kids have to learn entirely new terminology.
The formations/play design/etc can be very different and has been (Lane to Locks to DaBoll to Sark to BoB all had clear differences).
The biggest thing is terminology and structuring of the formsational stuff. That was apparently a big issue for BoB.
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Makes sense 
Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
Honestly, I'd guess a lot of places are like this. I'd be shocked if Denbrock isn't calling things the same thing Rees and Long called them at Notre Dame.
A place where you just give an OC free reign is probably not, but places with full control coaches like Kelly and Saban I'd imagine are pretty similar.
A place where you just give an OC free reign is probably not, but places with full control coaches like Kelly and Saban I'd imagine are pretty similar.
Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I always thought terminology was an important piece as it's easier for one coach to adapt to the team than the team to one coach.
Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
Agree.
For us, that was part of the whole Kiffin thing. Saban told him his job was basically to create this core system and all the terminology. Guys have added pages and things into it and tweaked things since, but the base of it was all written by Kiffin in 2014.
For us, that was part of the whole Kiffin thing. Saban told him his job was basically to create this core system and all the terminology. Guys have added pages and things into it and tweaked things since, but the base of it was all written by Kiffin in 2014.
Posted on 2/4/23 at 10:08 pm to Pandy Fackler
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This is an obvious we couldn't get who we wanted hire and it straight up shows
Who did we want?
Posted on 2/4/23 at 10:17 pm to thekid
Meh. Probably will do fine with our talent especially, and looks to have a more hard nosed philosophy which we sorely need. Might actually see tight ends used again. Defensive coordinator is much more crucial though
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 2/4/23 at 10:17 pm to thekid
I think all assholes that post stupid shite should be held accountable.
You are on the clock …
You are on the clock …
Posted on 2/5/23 at 6:51 am to Pandy Fackler
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whatever reason, a coordinator worth having didn't want to come to Alabama
So what you're saying is those other coordinators told Bama to frick off?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 6:53 am to cajunbama
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told him to frick OFF!!!
Glass house, mfer.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:13 am to bamameister
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"He frequently employed the "12" personnel grouping (one running back, two tight ends) at Notre Dame; and in short-yardage and goal-line situations, two tight ends aren't always enough for him. His offense got to the line of scrimmage quickly but did not always to snap the ball quickly.
Wait..
Did he do this, or did Kelly do this?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:17 am to C W
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Edit to say I guess its a good sign he hired the fellow at ND and then wanted to bring him along to LSU
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:58 am to That LSU Guy
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So what you're saying is those other coordinators told Bama to frick off?
Like Rees told Kelly when he tried to hire him at LSU.
Reportedly only the OC at Washington was offered the job before Rees.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:05 am to thekid
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What do ALabama fans really think of their new OC?
I can't remember ever being excited by a Saban OC hire. So far they've mostly worked out.
Saban has earned the benefit of the doubt with his coordinator hires.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 8:14 am
Posted on 2/5/23 at 9:59 am to thekid
Optimistic. Not excited. He’ll run the Alabama system with his own angles mixed in. I think we get back to being physical on offense. The DC hire becomes even more important now.
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