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re: What culture does Brian Kelly bring?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:05 am to Colonel Ingus
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:05 am to Colonel Ingus
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Rockne, Parseghian and Holtz also all won national championships.
So you're telling me that Kelly won almost 3/4's of his games and Notre Dame, one of the most blue blooded of blue bloods was happy to pay for 12 years?
Cool. Sounds like we made a good hire.
We turned relative unknowns in Saban and Miles into championship coaches, and a known loser into the HC of the GOAT 2019 champions. I like our chances with Kelly.
Next question?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:08 am to BigSneezy
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However, I don’t believe he comes across as an SEC southern coach.
What does this mean?
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So I feel his ONLY drawback (if it even is one) is just his ability to connect relationship wise with players based on where he’s from.
A man from a working class, catholic background. Yeah, Louisiana doesn't have anybody like that.
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Y’all gave him a 90 million buyout.
If you want to steal the winningest coach from Notre Dame, you gotta pay.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:10 am to wadewilson
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We turned relative unknowns in Saban and Miles into championship coaches, and a known loser into the HC of the GOAT 2019 champions. I like our chances with Kelly.
Such revisionist history.
Saban was far from unknown. You didn't turn him into shite. He turned you into a program dumbass Les could ride for years and fall backwards into a 2 loss title.
Trying to pretend the caveman had anything to do with the last one is beyond laughable.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:10 am to SidewalkTiger
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there's absolutely no reason for you to worry about LSU and Brian Kelly.
Earlycuyler stands in the mirror every morning and tells himself that he's not worried about Brian Kelly.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:11 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Saban was far from unknown. You didn't turn him into shite. He turned you into a program dumbass Les could ride for years and fall backwards into a 2 loss title.
Trying to pretend the caveman had anything to do with the last one is beyond laughable.
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Such revisionist history.
I agree.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:16 am to EarlyCuyler3
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finished with a record of just 4-11 against opponents that ranked in the Top 10 at the time of the game
Let the record show that we are now allowed to use the ranking at the time of the game in future arguments.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:17 am to TigerLunatik
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Let the record show that we are now allowed to use the ranking at the time of the game in future arguments.
Like it ever stopped you.
Just got to squeeze that Texas game in, otherwise the whole narrative falls apart.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:19 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Like it ever stopped you.
Not this guy. I've always used the end of season rankings.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:20 am to TigerLunatik
Well if you can find that stat for old Brian, I'm more than happy to accept it. Don't think it'll be much better.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:33 am to EarlyCuyler3
Argue over whatever stats you want and how you choose to spin them. Say he's a bad fit, make fun of his dancing and accent - cool.
Here's something you cannot argue - LSU upgraded. Maybe some of you aren't familiar with the details of how O was running his team the last few years and the details of how he hired his staff - he publicly admitted that he didnt even interview Pelini just months after he publicly stated the defense was in a better position than when we had Aranda. Dumpster fire doesn't begin to describe the structure and organization in the program. It has been 17 seasons since LSU has had a coach of this caliber in terms of structure, planning, and the ability to clearly articulate his goals and strategy.
So say whatever you want about the hire or the man. None of you would take Les or O over Kelly. And seeing the success that those 2 had you should all be worried.
Here's something you cannot argue - LSU upgraded. Maybe some of you aren't familiar with the details of how O was running his team the last few years and the details of how he hired his staff - he publicly admitted that he didnt even interview Pelini just months after he publicly stated the defense was in a better position than when we had Aranda. Dumpster fire doesn't begin to describe the structure and organization in the program. It has been 17 seasons since LSU has had a coach of this caliber in terms of structure, planning, and the ability to clearly articulate his goals and strategy.
So say whatever you want about the hire or the man. None of you would take Les or O over Kelly. And seeing the success that those 2 had you should all be worried.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:35 am to Beef Supreme
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Here's something you cannot argue - LSU upgraded
Bit of a low bar, isn't it? When the previous coach tried to use crayons to draw up plays...I mean, what isn't an upgrade?
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:47 am to EarlyCuyler3
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When the previous coach tried to use crayons to draw up plays...
That's all we needed to hang 46 points on Sabah.
Stop worrying.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:48 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Bit of a low bar, isn't it? When the previous coach tried to use crayons to draw up plays...I mean, what isn't an upgrade?
You may have missed the point so let me say it another way. With coaches who ate crayons and grass over the last 10 years LSU has the 3rd highest winning percentage of all the SEC schools - 70.8%. Are we stronger and better positioned moving forward with Brian Kelly? I don't think anyone will disagree that we are. At least not with a straight face.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:49 am to wadewilson
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That's all we needed
Actually you needed the guy who jumped ship ASAP since your team fell apart after he left.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:52 am to Beef Supreme
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Are we stronger and better positioned moving forward with Brian Kelly
That's great. He'll win most of the games against weaker opponents and lose pretty much every time to the big boys. It's who he is. Enjoy your 9-3/10-2 in perpetuity.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:56 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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I keep seeing he’s a bad culture fit, but I never see the culture identified. LSU just ran off a Cajun because he couldn’t win anymore. Kelly brings a winning culture and that is what LSU wants. I know I won’t get real answers here and it will go like this.
- Brings murder culture (bama fans)
- Can’t win NY6/BCS bowls (A&M fans)
- He’s just a bad culture fit (uga fans)
A&M fans bring the best/most factual stance that can’t be argued until Kelly wins big games in the sec and big bowl game. Anyways, see y’all September 4th.
Probably winning culture. He's won everywhere he's went. If it wasn't for the resurgence of Notre Dame under Kelly, the Irish would probably already have been forced into a conference by now.
The question to me is whether Kelly will be able to get the kinds of guys that are required to win at a high level. Notre Dame recruited a different kind of player than LSU because of the academic requirements. In a league full of charismatic coaches who all know how to win in a living room, can Kelly break through in Southern living rooms enough to get the quality and quantity of players to compete at the highest level.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:05 am to geauxnavybeatbama
quote:Orgeron was fired because the program was in total disarray. He had zero organization, there was no discipline and the culture of the program could best be described as 'chaos'. Kelly brings organization, a plan, a culture of discipline, accountability, consistency, etc. Will that result in championships? That remains to be seen. It's not clear he's got the ability to scheme for certain opponents, or make the kind of in game adjustments needed to win consistently in the SEC. Regardless, the culture he's installing is a quantum leap ahead of what LSU had before.
LSU just ran off a Cajun because he couldn’t win anymore.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:21 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Enjoy your 9-3/10-2 in perpetuity.
Soon we will all be in a post-Saban SEC. No matter who you hire you will not enjoy the success you have grown accustomed to. The alignment of the conference is still to be determined. If you threw all the SEC coaches into a pool and held a draft for who to move forward with in that post-saban new alignment world I believe in the majority of scenarios Kelly would be #2 or #3 off the board.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:23 am to EarlyCuyler3
Aranda?
Great coach. Doesn't sound like he's interested in a major program right now.
Great coach. Doesn't sound like he's interested in a major program right now.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:25 am to geauxnavybeatbama
It wasn't the Acadians that brought the Cajun accent to Louisiana......it was Brian Kelly.
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This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 9:28 am
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