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re: What Bama and Tua did was remarkable
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:00 am to ChewyDante
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:00 am to ChewyDante
I don't think LSU was a fluke. The talent has been too good there for too long. It looked to me, purely as an outside guy with no bias or agenda, that LSU was held back by a really stubborn Les Miles that was simply behind the times on offense. Now we're seeing what happens when that talent is coached to it's full potential.
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:01 am to TideFaninFl
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Yeah, and Alabama has won a Natty every decade since 1920, expect the 50's and 80's
Pretty sure you claim some titles other schools wouldn’t claim.
Anyways, thought you guys should know that.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:49 am to dstone12
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Pretty sure you claim some titles other schools wouldn’t claim.
Such as 1941? I agree...that's a shitty claim but we were awarded a national championship that season by Houlgate. Georgia claims a national championship from 1942 that was likewise awarded to them by Houlgate, despite Ohio State winning the AP national championship that year. So there is precedence though admittedly Georgia finished 11-1 in 1942 whereas we finished 9-2 in 1941.
Other than 1941, can you point to a single national championship Alabama claims that is questionable? We were awarded the AP national championship in 1961, 1964, 1965, 1978, and 1979. We were Coaches Poll national champions in 1973 and we were Bowl Coalition/BCS/CFP national champions in 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, and 2017. I suppose you could shite on our pre-Poll Era national title claims (1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934) but those were undefeated Rose Bowl teams the lot of them.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 9:51 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:00 am to CFFreak
BB (before Burrow) there isn't an LSU fan on earth who wouldn't have taken Tua in a blink. Imagine Tua as the qb in 11 instead of JJ. Les would still be coach at LSU if he could have reeled in a Tua.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:16 am to CFFreak
Ironic that the “greatest QB evah y’all “ was eclipsed and forgotten that quickly. LSU stole all Bama’s candy and ate it in front of them. Order restored.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:36 am to WilliamTaylor21
I never realized what the numbers were Burrow put up on the playoffs. That has to be the best 3 game stretch anyone has had. Throw in the fact that it was against the 4,4 & 3 ranked teams at the time. Believe Clemson was 3 because they don’t come out with a poll once bowl season starts
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:42 am to TideFaninFl
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Well, it is true. It is likely that Alabama wins the NC this year too.
Y’all said the same thing this time last year and then we had the greatest season ever and now here we are
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:42 am to lsujag
But wait until LSU plays a real defense...
Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:42 am to RollTide1987
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Other than 1941, can you point to a single national championship Alabama claims that is questionable?
Before we’d subject ourselves to six pages of back and forth; save us this drama and answer some q’s.
1. are you wanting to still claim titles that the NCAA doesn’t give you credit for? Does it embarrass you that you ‘want to look better than everyone else‘ is willing to give you credit for?
2. How many other teams do this?
3. Are LSU/auburn/Florida/Tenn Willing to claim and retro claim titles to the degree that you do? You say Uga does. But what about the rest of the big6?
4. If Houlgate and other obscure pubs are questionable, why do y still claim them?
This will save us time if you run thru this list.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 10:53 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:30 am to CFFreak
Congratulations!!!! Have them jumping out of trees to defend their university
BLM - Bama Lives Matter
BLM - Bama Lives Matter
Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:49 am to dstone12
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are you wanting to still claim titles that the NCAA doesn’t give you credit for?
1) The NCAA has never awarded a national championship in Division I-A/FBS football
2) We're not the only school in the country to claim a national championship that isn't "officially" recognized by the NCAA.
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Does it embarrass you that you ‘want to look better than everyone else‘ is willing to give you credit for?
The NCAA "recognizes" 15. Which is still more than any other team in the FBS. We have won 12 national championships since the Poll Era began in 1936 (1941 excluded) - which is still more than anyone else in the FBS. Any way you slice it, whether we're using "Bama Math" or the most mathematically sound way possible, Alabama still looks better than everyone else.
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2. How many other teams do this?
A lot. Two of them reside in the SEC.
Tennessee claims 6 national championships but has only won two national titles that were recognized by major selectors. They officially claim 1967 as a national championship season despite finishing the season with two losses and despite the fact that USC finished that season ranked #1 in the AP, Coaches, FWAA, and NFF (the four biggest selectors of the era).
Another one, though far less egregious, is the 1942 Georgia Bulldogs. Ohio State was awarded the AP national championship for that season but Georgia officially claims 1942 as a national championship season. They finished the season 11-1 and ranked #2 in the final AP Poll. However, that doesn't change the fact that Ohio State finished #1 in the final poll.
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Willing to claim and retro claim titles to the degree that you do?
As I highlighted before, Tennessee has already done this and Auburn was toying around with retroactively claiming 1913, 1983, 1993, and 2004 just a few years ago. Outside of the SEC, The USC Trojans went back and retroactively claimed 1939 as a national championship season about 10 years ago. Oklahoma State retroactively claimed 1945 as a national championship year as recently as 2016.
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4. If Houlgate and other obscure pubs are questionable, why do y still claim them?
Your guess is as good as mine.
This post was edited on 9/7/20 at 11:50 am
Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:41 pm to CFFreak
Im trying to remember which one went 1st overall in the NFL draft?
Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:44 pm to CFFreak
Still trying to measure up I see. Let me help you, it's shorter than you think.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:47 pm to CFFreak
You do know Joe couldn't score a point against Bama in 18.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:49 pm to RollTide1987
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1) The NCAA has never awarded a national championship in Division I-A/FBS football
I never said they did.
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2) We're not the only school in the country to claim a national championship that isn't "officially" recognized by the NCAA.
You answered my question without trying to answer it. So yes.
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Using bama math.
I like you. First one to admit this.
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A lot do
quote:not a lot....3 out of 14.
Two reside in the sec
quote:You’re the most honest one I’ve asked about this.
Your guess is as good as mine
Posted on 9/7/20 at 1:08 pm to dstone12
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I never said they did.
So why do you care what the NCAA says on the matter then?
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You answered my question without trying to answer it. So yes.
I did try to answer it. If the majority of "Blue Blood" schools do it, why is it that only Alabama gets brought up in conversation? 1941 is a shitty title claim to be sure, but there are others such as 1939 USC and 1967 Tennessee that are just as shitty.
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not a lot....3 out of 14.
In the SEC. There are others outside the SEC that do this such as USC, Michigan, and Notre Dame. I also think 50% of the so-called "Big Six" is a pretty substantial number, don't you agree?
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You’re the most honest one I’ve asked about this.
You clearly don't talk to a lot of Alabama fans then. Most of us who are in the know about 1941 don't claim it as a legitimate national championship.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 1:24 pm to lsujag
quote:Truly a sight to behold.
I never realized what the numbers were Burrow put up on the playoffs.
The previous TD record for a single CFP was 7 (Watson) - Joe doubled that with 14 vs OU and Clemson
Posted on 9/7/20 at 2:16 pm to RollTide1987
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In the SEC. There are others outside the SEC that do this such as USC, Michigan, and Notre Dame. I also think 50% of the so-called "Big Six" is a pretty substantial number, don't you agree?
Nice switch.....I didn’t say big six. You pulled big six to reduce the embarrassment....it didn’t work.
Try getting a 50% on your next basket weaving exam. You can’t even play football at BDS with a fifty. Even though 3 out of 14 is near 20% of the conference(My reference).
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You clearly don't talk to a lot of Alabama fans then. Most of us who are in the know about 1941 don't claim it as a legitimate national championship.
Nope, just you. I hear folks claim all of them but then scoff at 41 just to appear levelheaded.
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But here is the answer to why they do it
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If the majority of "Blue Blood" schools do it, why is it that only Alabama gets brought up in conversation?
And that is why it’s embarrassing and proves my real answer to the question from long ago.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 2:52 pm to dstone12
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Nice switch.....I didn’t say big six. You pulled big six to reduce the embarrassment....it didn’t work.
Uh...you did actually. In fact, let me quote you:
"Are LSU/auburn/Florida/Tenn Willing to claim and retro claim titles to the degree that you do? You say Uga does. But what about the rest of the big6?"
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Nope, just you. I hear folks claim all of them but then scoff at 41 just to appear levelheaded.
So you read their minds and know what they're thinking? The vast majority of Bama posters on this board who have done even the most basic of research on college football history acknowledge that 1941 is a shitty title claim.
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And that is why it’s embarrassing and proves my real answer to the question from long ago.
It's PR. Plain and simple. In the late-70s and early-80s, the blue bloods were using their past success to assist them in recruiting. Michigan is without a doubt the worst offender in this regard as four of the 11 titles they claim (retroactively mind you) were "awarded" before the advent of the forward pass and eight of the 11 were "awarded" before the Poll Era.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 2:57 pm to remaster916
quote:sounds like a pussy
Tua was injured during just about all those big games.
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