re: What are the downsides of Tenn-style offense?

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koreandawg

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Aaaaand, there it is.

Infantile bs shows up.

It was nice while it lasted.

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Most coaches are far more afraid of the criticism that comes with unorthodox play than they are losing.

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Man, this ought to be written on a rock somewhere. Its just true. So well stated.

It works in life as well. Most folks in charge would like to "succeed" ... as in make money, win, whatever. But job number one is to feel as if they are right. And that explains who they surround themselves with, why they do what they do, yada yada yada.

Straight up ... well said sir.

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This year - he basically has the players to beat anyone with it. Or, we'll find out in the last test of it Saturday I guess.

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I definitely wouldn’t say last test. Call me crazy or a homer or whatever but the Missouri defense is a more difficult matchup for this particular style of offense than what Georgia is.

Georgia has more players obviously, but Missouri has a bevy of Sunday players on that defense themselves and beyond that have shown the ability to create havoc out of a 6+1 box. You have to be able to effect the QB to disrupt this offense and Missouri can do that without blitzing. They also have 2 NFL corners and a long, rangy NFL safety in the back.

It might look better stat wise at the end of the game for Georgia because they have way more offense to limit possessions but it wouldn’t surprise me if the Missouri defense gave them significantly more problems than Georgia before their offense completely hangs them out to dry anyway.

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But with Saban ... I get the feeling it really is just a philosophy. I don't think he's an Xs and Os guy. Which is fine.

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He is an X and O guy. But he is a defensive coach.

Heupel's not telling his defensive coordinator what to run.

Qb has to be accurate and make correct calls at the line. Also be able to use the middle of the field. Everything they run opens up something else. If the qb is accurate.
It’s exactly what LSU was able to do with Burrow

You hit the major ones. Like the Bills teams that kept losing in superbowls, if you go fast and don't use up clock, even if you score your defense gets gassed. Operating quickly and not giving your team rest puts pressure on the defense.

That's why UGA rarely does it, but we always have success when we go fast. What is more common for us is to try to get those long drives for scores early, then go faster late when the opposing defense is completely worn down from getting no rest from their fast operating offense.

It also creates a need for your OL to be superior to the DL you face. If you spread everyone out you have 5 blockers, 6 with the RB (which doesn't factor if you run the ball). You have to be able to win the 1 on 1's on the OL consistently because you don't have the same sort of blocking help if you had 1-2 TE's there.

The main benefit isn't getting the defense tired from hurry up... it's from getting mismatches due to formations. Some teams have to sub to get the right groupings in the game to stop the run vs the pass. UGA's main counter to UT's scheme is that the players they have
in the secondary in their base nickel set (likely what they'll be in most of the time) are both very fast and large enough to come up in run support depending on UT's formations. Kelee Ringo is a 215 pound CB who runs a 4.36 40 (was the fastest players at one of the rivals recruiting events as a prospect). Think about the fact he's big enough to play LB for most teams. Most of our safeties are 200 plus. Most of them are listed as 4.4-4.5 40 guys or faster (3 are sub 4.4).

One of the reasons I like UGA to win the game (besides me being a fan) is that UGA's actually able to go fast when UT has the wrong set in and take more advantage than UT is because of UGA's TE's being so fast and athletic. Darnell Washington is 6-7, 270 pounds and runs a reported 4.6 40. Bowers has a 4.48 40 and is 6-4, 230. These guys can split out and create difficult matchups for DB's... or stay in close and contribute to blocking in the power running game. UGA doesn't go fast unless they need to or they get the opposing defense in the wrong set, rather than doing it all the time. Many times when UGA goes 2 TE power sets to get a first down in a short yardage situation, they hurry to the line to catch the defense in a run stuffing set and spread them out. The uber-talented TE's are what make it work so well.

Do what you do when you think you’re going against any elite offense. Run the ball. Burn time. Give them less time to expose mismatches. They can’t score if they don’t have the ball. If that offense doesn’t get in rhythm it’s a LONG day for them.

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Do what you do when you think you’re going against any elite offense. Run the ball. Burn time.

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Literally everyone tries this, it doesn't work.

It's not happening.

I think the hurry up offense needs to go the way of the dodo bird. Football was not meant to be played like basketball with continuous play. There are clear pauses between plays, and the hurry up just basically takes advantage of the defense not being ready to defend as quickly as the offense can be ready for play.

That said I think anyone who is not using it right now is foolish.