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What are some reforms the NCAA could make that would be universally accepted by CFB?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:04 pm
Considering the money the sport brings in, I think they are some that would both be affordable and help make the game better
- Pylon/Goal-line Cameras required in all D1 stadiums, at least across the P5. Other cameras (whether on referees helmets, chains, goalposts, etc) as well. If we are going to use replay the way we do give them the most and best angles to look at.
- Uniform replay system across CFB - same equipment, views, camera quality, etc everywhere.
- Full time referees, at least at the P5 level supplied by the NCAA. This would help to cover the costs of flying around the country to do different games each week, training both professionally and physically, etc. Use the NFL model. Even possibly see if the NFL (and HS for that matter) would be interested in a loose affiliation to help with standards/training/etc.
- Targeting rule changed to a Level I and Level II targeting penalty like intentional fouls in basketball, with both being reviewable. Level I foul is a penalty and a 2nd of those gets you ejected. It is a "targeting" but ruled to be without intent. Level II is egregious or with intent and you get 15 yards and are ejected.
- Go back to the old facemask rules. It's ridiculous to have a guy graze a facemask on a 3rd and 23 sack and the other team get an auto first down.
- Get rid of the ball through the end zone touchback. Just doesn't make any logical sense.
Thoughts? Additional ideas?
- Pylon/Goal-line Cameras required in all D1 stadiums, at least across the P5. Other cameras (whether on referees helmets, chains, goalposts, etc) as well. If we are going to use replay the way we do give them the most and best angles to look at.
- Uniform replay system across CFB - same equipment, views, camera quality, etc everywhere.
- Full time referees, at least at the P5 level supplied by the NCAA. This would help to cover the costs of flying around the country to do different games each week, training both professionally and physically, etc. Use the NFL model. Even possibly see if the NFL (and HS for that matter) would be interested in a loose affiliation to help with standards/training/etc.
- Targeting rule changed to a Level I and Level II targeting penalty like intentional fouls in basketball, with both being reviewable. Level I foul is a penalty and a 2nd of those gets you ejected. It is a "targeting" but ruled to be without intent. Level II is egregious or with intent and you get 15 yards and are ejected.
- Go back to the old facemask rules. It's ridiculous to have a guy graze a facemask on a 3rd and 23 sack and the other team get an auto first down.
- Get rid of the ball through the end zone touchback. Just doesn't make any logical sense.
Thoughts? Additional ideas?
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 3:10 pm
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:07 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Targeting rule changed to a Level I and Level II targeting penalty like intentional fouls in basketball, with both being reviewable. Level I foul is a penalty and a 2nd of those gets you ejected. It is a "targeting" but ruled to be without intent. Level II is egregious or with intent and you get 15 yards and are ejected.
Would be so good.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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- Targeting rule changed to a Level I and Level II targeting penalty like intentional fouls in basketball, with both being reviewable. Level I foul is a penalty and a 2nd of those gets you ejected. It is a "targeting" but ruled to be without intent. Level II is egregious or with intent and you get 15 yards and are ejected.
Something here is critical. I'm even fine with taking Level II and automatically making ejection for 3 halves of play instead of 2...
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Get rid of the ball through the end zone touchback. Just doesn't make any logical sense.
What does this mean?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:14 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Something here is critical. I'm even fine with taking Level II and automatically making ejection for 3 halves of play instead of 2...
Agree - Level II versions of this should be punished very, very harshly. Level I still needs to exist, IMHO, because the goal is to get guys to change the way they play the game. And I get that. But if Level II happens (spear, clear head shot on crack block, etc) a guy should really get lit up suspension wise.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:15 pm to jlovel7
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What does this mean?
Fumbles through the endzone by an offensive player = a turnover doesn't make any sense. Why does the other team get the ball because you fumbled into the end zone? If you fumble forward out of bounds anywhere else on the field you just get it back, but when you move all the way to the opponents end zone all of a sudden its a turnover?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Ban the Tailgate Guys while we still can.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Agree - Level II versions of this should be punished very, very harshly. Level I still needs to exist, IMHO, because the goal is to get guys to change the way they play the game. And I get that. But if Level II happens (spear, clear head shot on crack block, etc) a guy should really get lit up suspension wise.
Exactly. Yellow/Red, Flagrant 1/2... other sports have figured this out... it doesn't seem like it should be that difficult.
And yeah, if the Level II is essentially penalizing intent, then functionally half to maybe a whole game worth of suspension is not significant enough. Do dumb shite, cost yourself and your team.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Ban TV timeouts.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Fumbles through the endzone by an offensive player = a turnover doesn't make any sense. Why does the other team get the ball because you fumbled into the end zone? If you fumble forward out of bounds anywhere else on the field you just get it back, but when you move all the way to the opponents end zone all of a sudden its a turnover?
Now I follow... 100%
If I can't fumble forward anywhere else (it just gets ruled down where I lost it), then why in the frick can I fumble forward into the endzone and lose possession. It is possibly one of the dumbest rules on the books right now. And that includes targeting. It just comes up less often.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:20 pm to deeprig9
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Ban TV timeouts.
Or at least make them only allowed 50% of the "stoppages".
I swear the State/Bama game had a TV timeout all but 1 stoppage. I've never seen anything like it.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:21 pm to fibonaccisquared
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If I can't fumble forward anywhere else (it just gets ruled down where I lost it), then why in the frick can I fumble forward into the endzone and lose possession. It is possibly one of the dumbest rules on the books right now. And that includes targeting. It just comes up less often.
Yea, it just doesn't make any sense. Not only does the defense get it but they get it out at the 20!
I mean, this play led to one of my favorite memories of college (6-3 Bama/Tennessee), but it is a preposterous rule.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Back before SEC network I remember going to a UGA vs Shitschool game that was only on PPV. The whole game was two hours. It was awesome. That's how the game was meantvto be played.
Soccer and Hockey and Basketball and Baseball all make it work. They don't stop the game randomly for a fricking TV timeout.
Soccer and Hockey and Basketball and Baseball all make it work. They don't stop the game randomly for a fricking TV timeout.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I don't mind the forward fumble rule through the endzone being a touch back for the defense.
Fumbles are bad. The end zone is technically outside the field of play for the ball. Giving the offense the ball back at the spot it was dropped with a loss of down doesn't seem harsh enough. Protect the ball.
I sometimes think pass interference penalties can be video replayed. There definitely needs to be more consistency. One answer may be video replay, however better ref training could do the same more efficiently during the game.
Fumbles are bad. The end zone is technically outside the field of play for the ball. Giving the offense the ball back at the spot it was dropped with a loss of down doesn't seem harsh enough. Protect the ball.
I sometimes think pass interference penalties can be video replayed. There definitely needs to be more consistency. One answer may be video replay, however better ref training could do the same more efficiently during the game.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Allow other teams outside the accepted caste system to cheat equitably
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I agree with everything you said. Ask for the REC to get it done when you pay your monthly check
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
First downs no longer stopping the clock.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:50 pm to Korin
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First downs no longer stopping the clock.
I actually like that about the college game.
If I wanted a pro adaptation, I would pick getting 2 feet in bounds for a reception.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Targeting knees with helmet.
Twisting leg after ball carrier is down.
Twisting leg after ball carrier is down.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The targeting and the touchback rules definitely need changing. I sometime wish the NFL and CFB were more consistent in rules. The problem is I like the CFB rules better and don't want them changed. For example, only one foot needed in bounds for a completion. And knee down you are down whether you are touched or not. And clock stops on 1st down until ball is set.
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