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re: Well Dak done got woke. No surprise .
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:15 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:15 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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No, he’s on death row because the state failed to provide him with an adequate defense attorney and several pieces of evidence that would have cast significant doubt on his guilt never saw the courtroom.
So because he had a poor attorney, it was racially motivated? That type of thing happens plenty with white defendants too.
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Who cares if he’s innocent or guilty?
most people should care whether he's innocent or guilty
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Anyone who reads up on the trial can tell that the evidence didn’t meet the high burden of proof required for a criminal conviction
I guess the jury in that case disagreed
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We need to stop accepting mediocrity in the justice system.
I agree. But I also am sick and tired of wrongful convictions being painted as being racially motivated as a matter of habit and knee jerk reaction. They're generally more related to unprofessional/lazy investigators and prosecutors, which affects everyone in those judicial districts. It also can boil down to poor people not being able to afford better counsel. There are poor people across the ethnic spectrum.
What happened in the appeals process? These death row inmates can have multiple rounds of appeals before they're actually executed.
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Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:17 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Hell, Dak played for the rival of Ole Miss. It’d be dumb to think he hasn’t had some comments thrown his way due to that alone.
Racist MSU Fans
Actual article of State fans doing exactly this. I can't find one about Ole Miss... strange
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:19 pm to Saskwatch
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I can't find one about Ole Miss... strange
Your frat boys have numerous incidents of shooting signes and defacing statues. Don’t be a dumbass.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:23 pm to InGAButLoveBama
Hey, now. Why don't you focus on white crime? Why are most mass shooters heterosexual white men? LINK
And you won't cite a source for the 90% number because it's made up.
Finally, what gets counted/constructed as a crime is also tied to race. Rich white people who lead pharma companies and jack up drug costs or who deny healthcare to poor people or who steal wages from their employees or pollute the environment in ways that disproportionately affect people of color and poor people...are they not criminals, too? Yet, here you are, blaming Black people for America's problems.
And you won't cite a source for the 90% number because it's made up.
Finally, what gets counted/constructed as a crime is also tied to race. Rich white people who lead pharma companies and jack up drug costs or who deny healthcare to poor people or who steal wages from their employees or pollute the environment in ways that disproportionately affect people of color and poor people...are they not criminals, too? Yet, here you are, blaming Black people for America's problems.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:25 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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No, he’s on death row because the state failed to provide him with an adequate defense attorney and several pieces of evidence that would have cast significant doubt on his guilt never saw the courtroom.
no he's on death row because he murdered Paul Howell in cold blood in front of his sister and daughters, how convent that you that left part out.
“The fact is, Julius Jones murdered Paul Howell in cold blood in front of his sister and daughters,” Hunter said. “No celebrity imploration or profusion of misinformation will change that. The information we are releasing today is from the trial transcript, and it disproves every claim that he is innocent."
but he a good boy!
Information from trial transcripts shows witnesses identified Jones as the shooter and placed Jones with Howell's stolen vehicle. The murder weapon and a bandanna with Jones' DNA was recovered in an attic space above his bedroom.
Jones also maintains his trial was contaminated by a racist juror, but Hunter noted that both the trial court and the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals found otherwise.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:29 pm to lsufball19
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So because he had a poor attorney, it was racially motivated?
Per the U.S. constitution, it is on the state to provide him with one. The fact that his failed to submit evidence makes it arguable that the spirit of this constitutional provision was not met.
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most people should care whether he's innocent or guilty
The evidence did not meet the commonly understood bar for a guilty conviction. Whether or not he actually did it is irrelevant. Our nation’s core principles place a higher priority on keeping innocent people from wrongful conviction than “catching the bad guy”. The modern justice system has heavily diverged from these principles, as evidenced by this case.
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I guess the jury in that case disagreed
The jury is not the end-all-be-all. There were failures before the jury even made a decision. The jury in this case did not even see all of the evidence, and the fact that the jury made a conviction leads to questions about their selection in the first place.
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But I also am sick and tired of wrongful convictions being painted as being racially motivated
The you are just very ignorant. Even if unintentional, racial bias is a common and well-documented factor in jury decisions. It doesn’t just swing against African Americans, either. It’s on the state and court system to ensure these biases don’t ultimately affect the decision. In shitty states like Oklahama they usually don’t do a good job or even care.
Hell, the problem actually goes beyond racial bias. There is documented evidence of both anti-male and anti-female bias having been a factor in court cases.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:35 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:Give me a break. State fans are much more conservative than Ole Miss fans. If he heard it from anyone, it came from them.
Hell, Dak played for the rival of Ole Miss. It’d be dumb to think he hasn’t had some comments thrown his way due to that alone.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:37 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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It’s very believable. Lots of racists in Louisiana, MS, and Texas.
I dont think there are any more racists in the South than anywhere else, I just think higher percentages of black residents per capita just make racially motivated incidents more likely.
Many black communities in the North are still somewhat segregated.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:37 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Per the U.S. constitution, it is on the state to provide him with one. The fact that his failed to submit evidence makes it arguable that the spirit of this constitutional provision was not met.
what does that have to do with racism?
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The evidence did not meet the commonly understood bar for a guilty conviction.
The jury disagreed. That is also an integral part of our justice system
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The jury is not the end-all-be-all.
Actually it is for the most part.
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The jury in this case did not even see all of the evidence,
why don't you elaborate.
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the fact that the jury made a conviction leads to questions about their selection in the first place.
FFS
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The you are just very ignorant. Even if unintentional, racial bias is a common and well-documented factor in jury decisions. It doesn’t just swing against African Americans, either. It’s on the state and court system to ensure these biases don’t ultimately affect the decision. In shitty states like Oklahama they usually don’t do a good job or even care.
You've said evidence was withheld but haven't said what was withheld. You've said the verdict was a product of racism but have failed to explain how exactly and why. I'm sorry, but your broad and vague explanation as to why this case in particular was a miscarriage of justice and a product of a racists system isn't persuasive in the least. Throwing out stats that 1 in 9 death row inmates are exonerated doesn't mean this case was 1 of those 9. Further, a large portion of those exoneration are due to DNA analysis not having been available when people were convicted and that science being available now.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:42 pm to TigerAlum2006
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Hey, now. Why don't you focus on white crime? Why are most mass shooters heterosexual white men?
Why focus on mass shootings? There are very few actual mass shootings in an average year.
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Finally, what gets counted/constructed as a crime is also tied to race. Rich white people who lead pharma companies and jack up drug costs or who deny healthcare to poor people or who steal wages from their employees or pollute the environment in ways that disproportionately affect people of color and poor people...are they not criminals, too?
That isn't tied to race.
People cant see easily see and understand those types of things, they can easily see and understand a robbery, a rape, or a killing.
That isn't tied to race at all.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:42 pm to SEC7070
On the NFL QB Woke scale how much higher does Brees rank above Dak? Americas QB took a stand on the flag and has Old Glory flying on his back porch
Posted on 8/6/20 at 2:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why focus on mass shootings? There are very few actual mass shootings in an average year.
Hmmm...because there's clearly something going on when the clear majority of mass shooters are straight white men. The real question is why do you want to dismiss this as irrelevant.
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That isn't tied to race.
People cant see easily see and understand those types of things, they can easily see and understand a robbery, a rape, or a killing.
That isn't tied to race at all.
Huh? It's very much tied to race. On a number of levels. First, the rich folks who do those things would prefer that poor white folks hate Black folks so they can simultaneously feel superior and blame someone other than rich folks for their economic problems. This is an old playbook in America. Second, that white people are often in charge of these schemes and that the schemes disproportionately affect people of color is by definition tied to race. Or are you arguing that these different classes are just random or coincidental? Third, that we can "easily see" robbery, rape, and killing—these media images are very much racialized. Depictions in the media of crime and criminals is all racialized. And, again, those depictions are controlled by...rich white people.
But sure, you can repeat the mantra "that isn't tied to race" all you want. But that doesn't mean it's true.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:48 pm to ColoradoAg
He aint been right since "Panama City " .
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:59 pm to TigerAlum2006
Should we start with education, both parents being involved, and decisions people make to put themselves in a bad situation? In Georgia you have been able to go to college for free if you work hard and make certain grades through high school and college for years. Who's fault is it if the work isn't put in to achieve it?
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:07 pm to TigerAlum2006
Dak ought to be worried about trying to win a playoff game or two for once than worrying about some scumbag.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:09 pm to TigerAlum2006
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because there's clearly something going on when the clear majority of mass shooters are straight white men
Mass shooting is a broad term
Mass shootings occur with frightening regularity in New Orleans and Baton Rouge almost always it's African American straight males shooting other African American straight males.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:16 pm to SEC7070
Dak Prescott: Triggering LSU fans since 2014.
Gotta love it.
Gotta love it.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:19 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
I'm not an LSU fan but I feel comfortable saying there is nothing Miss State has accomplished to be trigger worthy
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:27 pm to bopper50
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Dak ought to be worried about trying to win a playoff game or two for once
Dak beat Seattle in the playoffs in 2018
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:31 pm to Poker Dough
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Most overpaid NFL player of all time
This guy clearly hasn’t heard of Matt Flynn
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