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re: Was our players so focused on not screwing up that they screwed up?
Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:32 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:32 am to hawgfaninc
honestly DVH looked tight as hell from the second he stepped on the dirt in Omaha and it probably translated. It's in his head and I can't blame him... team looked tight and scared to death in the 9th...LSU was playing loose fast and free. a recipe for disaster for yall
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:35 am to theliontamer
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I really dont think the Aloy play was that bad. It was the safe play. Turned out to be bad. It was the least terrible play of the inning imo.
Worst Plays:
1. Left fielder letting game winning ball hit him in shoulder and 2 runs score.
2. Fielding and throwing error to let Curiel get to 2nd base.
3a. 2nd basemen missing that catch. (really wasnt bad, but he will think about that one for the rest of his life)
3b. Aloy playing it safe and taking the easy out, which was also the lead runner in a 2 run game.
I disagree. All the others were fairly difficult plays and I'm happy to tip the cap to LSU for putting the ball in positions for that to happen.
The Aloy decision is inexcusable IMO. You have to know before the play that you're going to 2nd unless the runner steals. Even if you don't get the double (I think 95% we would have), you get the easy out at 2nd. 2 outs with a runner on 2nd vs 2 outs with a runner on 3rd is not that different. At least not different enough to pass on the chance to end the game.
LSU hit into a texbook double play and we didn't even try to capitalize on it.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 10:40 am
Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:42 am to The Sultan of Swine
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disagree. All the others were fairly difficult plays and I'm happy to tip the cap to LSU for putting the ball in positions for that to happen.
The Aloy decision is inexcusable IMO. You have to know before the play that you're going to 2nd unless the runner steals. Even if you don't get the double (I think 95% we would have), you get the easy out at 2nd. 2 outs with a runner on 2nd vs 2 outs with a runner on 3rd is not that different. At least not different enough to pass on the chance to end the game
This.
You have to know BEFORE the ball is hit that the runner advancing to 3rd doesn't really matter. Even if you don't turn the DP you really aren't in a worse position. Runners at 1st and 3rd with 2 outs vs. runners at 1st and 2nd with 2 outs. Either way, there is only 1 guy in scoring position with you being up by 2 runs.
I think Arkansas in an effort to be overly careful not to screw thing up ultimately screwed things up.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:42 am to GoldenSombrero
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What I can’t comprehend his pitching to him with 1st open. His run didn’t matter and would have set up a force anywhere. And on top of that we were trying to be careful and pitch around him. Makes no sense.
Has DVH commented on this? I think pitcher was instructed to throw breakers low and outside that weren't really hittable. In essence an intentional walk but maybe Jones, as he is VERY prone to do, will swing and miss a few times. And then the pitcher just missed his spot and left one up.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:43 am to The Sultan of Swine
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The Aloy decision is inexcusable IMO. You have to know before the play that you're going to 2nd unless the runner steals. Even if you don't get the double (I think 95% we would have), you get the easy out at 2nd. 2 outs with a runner on 2nd vs 2 outs with a runner on 3rd is not that different. At least not different enough to pass on the chance to end the game
This. You’re up 2. The lead runner in that situation doesn’t matter. That was a tailor-made DP ball. A million times out of a million, he makes the easy throw to second there with an almost certain DP.
Just end the game there! But nope. Physical errors happen. Mental errors are the real killers. Definitely killed Arkansas last night.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 10:59 am to GoldenSombrero
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Aloy play I get to. Take the for sure out with the lead runner. I’m not sure we would have turned 2 there
Bro, the second baseman could have ran to first after getting the force at second to turn 2.
It was the simplest double okay I've seen. Milam wasnt even in the camera frame by the time the ball reached the third basemans glove.
Sorry Aloy could have and should have ended the game there, period. The runner going to 3elrd was no threat as Hogs were up by 2.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:05 am to hawgfaninc
A team reflects its leadership, especially the coach. Van Horn tightens up, his team follows accordingly. As long as this behavior continues, the same results will happen. It’s why Skip’s teams were so clutch.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:11 am to hawgfaninc
I’m not sure cursed falls under choking. The SS not starting a routine double play to win the game is not Devine intervention. It’s just choking.
The hog 3rd baseman was even confused. He also thought it was going to be an easy 6-4-3 or he maybe would have got to 3rd faster. Heck, he probably could have completed the double play in time if he thought the ball was coming to him from the start.
Did the SS think there were two outs already? I have no idea what he was thinking.
The hog 3rd baseman was even confused. He also thought it was going to be an easy 6-4-3 or he maybe would have got to 3rd faster. Heck, he probably could have completed the double play in time if he thought the ball was coming to him from the start.
Did the SS think there were two outs already? I have no idea what he was thinking.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 11:24 am
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:29 am to hawgfaninc
Your ss should have been drooling to get the DP ball.....he got it and for some silly reason went to third. The LF and 2B both had tough plays, your SS did not, he shite himself at some point.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:33 am to hawgfaninc
Just bad luck to have so many small mistakes happen in Just the right way. He skipped the double play because the third base runner ran right in front of him and it scrambled his brain. The diving catch was a tough one, if it was further out and he was under it, that's out. The ball off the glove was a half inch away from being an out. The only real head scratcher is not walking jones. Coach is gonna have to live w that. I really feel for yall, I can't even picture how I'd feel losing a game like that where just one slight change in many moments would have been the difference.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:40 am to hawgfaninc
I do think Arkansas players feel the pressure to not frick up and win one for DVH to the points it causes them to frick up.
yeah.
yeah.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:43 am to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:he easily catches that ball if he stays on his feet
Davalon made the best play on the LF ball that he could - do you let it bounce and not go for the out?
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:45 am to The Sultan of Swine
I think the SS thought there were two outs.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:46 am to ForeverLSU02
I think what most of you guys are forgetting about is that even if Arkansas wins the game. They still have to beat LSU a second time. I don't think that would have happened.
Yall are acting like if you guys won the game it was a guaranteed championship trip.
LSU has beat yall 4/5 times this year. Thats not a curse.
Yall are acting like if you guys won the game it was a guaranteed championship trip.
LSU has beat yall 4/5 times this year. Thats not a curse.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 11:47 am
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:49 am to AGGIES
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Yeah, that’s what it appears. You have to decide what you’ll do before the ball is hit to you.
Where can I install the Aggie mute button?
Posted on 6/19/25 at 12:07 pm to jlovel7
They will win one in baseball but unfortunately not with Dave.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 12:07 pm to msap9020
Amazing the amout of Jerks from other schools who choked in the post season want to chime in and give their stupid 2 cents after a game that decides who goes to the finals.
Go away. Figure out how your team needs to get better.
Yeah we lost and it SUCKS. Nobody cares what someone from bama or texas or wherever else thinks.
WPS.
Go away. Figure out how your team needs to get better.
Yeah we lost and it SUCKS. Nobody cares what someone from bama or texas or wherever else thinks.
WPS.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 12:15 pm to SpencerRob
Dave was nervous and so was the team.
Until that stops then they will continue to come up short.
It's just a game not life and death.
Until that stops then they will continue to come up short.
It's just a game not life and death.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 12:19 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
The fly ball was the least of the mistakes made.
The first was not taking the easy double play to end the inning and throwing to 3rd instead
Then pitching to the best hitter on the team with 1st base open when he doesn’t even matter as a runner
The first was not taking the easy double play to end the inning and throwing to 3rd instead
Then pitching to the best hitter on the team with 1st base open when he doesn’t even matter as a runner
Posted on 6/19/25 at 12:26 pm to ElDawgHawg
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Amazing the amout of Jerks from other schools who choked in the post season want to chime in and give their stupid 2 cents after a game that decides who goes to the finals.
Go away. Figure out how your team needs to get better.
Yeah we lost and it SUCKS. Nobody cares what someone from bama or texas or wherever else thinks.
Agree - where were the Aggies anyway? Oh yeah, now I remember....
You guys played a helluva series and I cant think of a team I wanted to play less in that spot.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 12:28 pm
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