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re: Was Jim McElwain the worst SEC hire in recent history?
Posted on 7/26/18 at 4:44 pm to tjv305
Posted on 7/26/18 at 4:44 pm to tjv305
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I don’t think he was any worse then Muschamp. Muschamp took over a team that had more offensive talent then he left . Then Mac did the same thing with the defense. Muschamp had a better situation coming in after Meyer .
I agree, but I do think the hire itself made sense. He was young, up and coming and fit the mold of other successful UF coaches. I think Foley got into his head a bit with the Mac hire. He’s really the outlier in that he didn’t have any of the attributes Foley usually looked for in a UF head coach (in any sport). It was an odd choice for him.
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 4:47 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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All the people saying Mullen confuse me.
That’s because we’re not serious.....
Posted on 7/26/18 at 4:52 pm to bgator85
What didn't make sense about Muschamp is he had never been a head coach before, and UF seems like the kind of program where learning on the job wouldn't be wanted. We has a head coach in waiting though, so it wasn't completely crazy.
McElwain was a better hire on paper until you get to the buyout. I still can't believe Foley gave Colorado St. like $7 million worth of shite just because he didn't get that social media is a thing. Talk about a windfall for someone else fricking up at their job....
McElwain was a better hire on paper until you get to the buyout. I still can't believe Foley gave Colorado St. like $7 million worth of shite just because he didn't get that social media is a thing. Talk about a windfall for someone else fricking up at their job....
Posted on 7/26/18 at 5:00 pm to cardboardboxer
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You judge hires based on how they look on paper the day the coach is hired. If it doesn't work out, unless its for reasons that were obvious day one like a poor fit, that is bad luck not a poor hire.
this has got to be the most amazing statements I have ever read. you judge hires using only two criterion...
1)results
2)integrity
how they look on paper at the date of hire doesn't mean shite. if they fail, it was a poor hire; nothing more or nothing less. luck doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 5:02 pm to The Nino
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Yea but he did it with Muschamp's players mostly. Looking at the shitshow UF was last year and the dumpster fire it is currently, Mac set the program back several years
I mean, it obviously wasn't a great hire by any means, but I still think it was a relatively understandable one. He'd had success in the SEC and at CSU. He just didn't happen to be a good fit.
I actually don't think Bert was a bad hire at all. He just lost Sam Pittman and everything became a disaster.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 5:15 pm to Dawgsontop34
Bert was fricking awful. Worst in history.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 5:35 pm to AUCE05
Hugh Freeze.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 5:46 pm to PEPE
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Ed O was worse.
McElwain took over a mess and it stayed a mess.
Ed O is going to run LSU's functional program into the ground.
Sadly agree. With the exception of rappers, CFB coaches have cornered the market for sub 100 IQ's earning 7 digit salaries. O is the poster child.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 5:53 pm to LSU GrandDad
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how they look on paper at the date of hire doesn't mean shite
Sure it does. You don't know the actual results for years after the hire, usually after that AD is gone, so the only thing you can judge on day one is how good the hire looks on paper.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 6:36 pm to Beached Tusky
Bielema has fewer SEC wins than Orgeron.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 6:40 pm to AUCE05
2 division titles in 3 years? That's better than most of the coaches in the SEC. Problem is that he was at UF, a program that now expects conference titles and to contend nationally. Like Alabama, they don't keep coaches around long if they don't do that.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 7:02 pm to AUCE05
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Was Jim McElwain the worst SEC hire in recent history?
How recent?
I'm going with Derek Dooley.
By the way, guess who's coming to Knoxville on November 17?
Posted on 7/26/18 at 7:09 pm to Beached Tusky
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Bert was fricking awful. Worst in history.
Bert actually had his moments.
Dooley got worse every single year.
His only conference wins were against Kentucky, Vandy and Ole Miss. That's it. And in 3 seasons he managed 4 conference wins. 4-19 in conference.
Bert started off badly in conference but he had some big wins against LSU and managed to win 5 conference games his 3rd year.
Dooley was just horribly bad. And even when he came close to big wins he found inventful new ways to frick it all up. He was comically bad.
Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:42 pm to AUCE05
No he was great.. offense cursed
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