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Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:32 pm to theyatoak
The Kelly hire was totally out of left field and was shocking. I don't remember his name coming up in any of the speculation leading up to the announcement. I think at the time of the hire, Kelly was a bigger hire. Ultimately time will tell which is the bigger hire.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:33 pm to theyatoak
Both will be epic disappointments so that’s a toughy
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:35 pm to borotiger
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There were a very similar amount, and type, of celebratory posts on tRant as there are now.
Should LSU fans not celebrate that they poached a playoff coach?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:35 pm to 3down10
quote:This is my concern about Kiffin. His track record against ranked teams looks a lot like Brian Kelly's.
He's not good against ranked teams, especially on the road.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:37 pm to theyatoak
Brian Kelly was a much more shocking hire to me for a myriad of reasons. Partially because I am close to ND fans that absolutely haaaated him at the end, but LSU fans made the argument that whatever success he had at ND should be doubled or tripled because he was now in the SEC and so they gaslit themselves into believing he would do greater things with the resources. Lane at least found some level of success in the SEC which I understand is fueling the optimism now. Still shocking BK did so little with as much as he had access to at LSU. That would be the one thing keeping me up at night if I were an LSU fan, can Land get over his own arse and actually apply himself instead of stroke the ego the entire time? Egomaniacs can be wildly successful, but they also crash and burn in fantastical ways, too. Either way, it will be entertaining.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:38 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Should LSU fans not celebrate that they poached a playoff coach?
I need said that. I simply said that the quantity and type of celebratory posts were similar.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:52 pm to theyatoak
LSU fans…myself induced are always stoked about a coaching hire.
It’s our team
We want to see them succeed.
It’s our team
We want to see them succeed.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:56 pm to theyatoak
Easily. It isn't close. Kelly came from a Blue Blood to the swamps of Louisiana. It was bigger than Franchione leaving Bama for little old A&M.
The mental masturbation of LSU fans on this hire is absolutely hilarious.
We all overestimate the prestige of our programs, but none more than LSU.
The mental masturbation of LSU fans on this hire is absolutely hilarious.
We all overestimate the prestige of our programs, but none more than LSU.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:00 pm to coolpapaboze
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This is my concern about Kiffin. His track record against ranked teams looks a lot like Brian Kelly's.
It's a valid concern for sure.
I think he was the best, most sure hire available, but so was BK, and that didn't work out.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:15 pm to 3down10
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He's never pulled in a top10 class counting transfers.
Well… won’t take long to do that here.
I’m just happy to have a coach who isn’t going to lose prep/scheme in > 50% of our games (including Ws). Also can’t see Kiffin making historically trashcan hires like Matt House / Joe Sloan.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:22 pm to 3down10
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He's never pulled in a top10 class counting transfers.
True but Miles, Saban and Orgeron didn’t have top ten classes at their previous stops and Kelly likely had only a couple if any.
Regardless of your hate for LSU, it matters what school you’re being recruited to.
How many top classes did DeBoer have at Washington compared to what he’s had at Bama?
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:24 pm to navy
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Previously, LSU poached the winningest Coach in Notre Dame history.
It needs to be put into context. He racked up a bunch of wins against average and mediocre teams. His record against ranked teams wasn't the greatest. His team constantly got their dicks kicked in against teams with equal or better talent.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:35 pm to theyatoak
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Is Lane a bigger hire than Brian Kelly was, less so, or about the same?
BK was a big thing in some circles. He was a pretty big name and it came out of left field. I was cautiously optimistic about BK. His record was good, but was he up to the challenge of an SEC schedule. Apparently, he was not.
While not my first choice, Lane's stops, after spending time with Saban, have been very successful. Is it enough to make me forget about everything before Saban? Well, once again I am cautiously optimistic. He has shown he can be successful in the league. Hopefully he can take the next step. I will however, not say that he can, until he does. Overall, Lane is a bit better hire than I thought LSU would get. Will it work over time? We will see.
Difference between the two, at time of hire....Lane was the best option for this hiring cycle. BK was not the best for his hiring cycle.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:47 pm to theyatoak
Yes, he was a bigger hire.
When Brian Kelly was hired by LSU, most national pundits considered him a top 5 coach. Almost everyone considered him a top 10 coach.
When Lane Kiffin was hired by LSU, almost no national pundits considered him a top 5 coach. Some considered him a top 10 coach.
When Brian Kelly was hired by LSU, most national pundits considered him a top 5 coach. Almost everyone considered him a top 10 coach.
When Lane Kiffin was hired by LSU, almost no national pundits considered him a top 5 coach. Some considered him a top 10 coach.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:49 pm to theyatoak
Pulling a guy from ND who'd been there a long time and was on the playoff bubble was probably bigger a bigger deal. Kiffin seemed to want to get out of Oxford.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:54 pm to theyatoak
The fambily told us BK was a slam dunk can't miss hire.
Sound familiar?
Sound familiar?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:00 pm to theyatoak
At the time of the hire, Brian was a bigger hire. Stealing a HC from a blue blood, Notre Dame.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:15 pm to theyatoak
Technically Lyin' Lane has won a bigger bowl (Peach Bowl as NY6 bowl) than BK (Citrus Bowl). So I'd say no.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:37 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Well… won’t take long to do that here.
I’m just happy to have a coach who isn’t going to lose prep/scheme in > 50% of our games (including Ws). Also can’t see Kiffin making historically trashcan hires like Matt House / Joe Sloan.
I agree, it would be pretty bad if he couldn't recruit top10 at LSU.
But I question his overall philosophy. He will basically sign half your roster every year with the portal, while top teams recruit better out of HS and then try to keep them around for development.
His roster turnover is pretty crazy.
So we'll see if that changes with LSU classes, I think it'll need to.
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