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re: Vince Dooley on SEC schedule changes

Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:59 pm to
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Then do the math for tie-breakers sorting all 14 schools due to lack of common opponents.
You only need to sort the top 3 for purposes of determining championship game opponents. It's not that hard. You use tie breakers just like you do now for 3 way ties. If the tie is between 1 and 2, then nobody cares other than for uniform choice and who calls the toss.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:59 pm to
Annual rivalries also to be kept:

UT/Vandy
Miss./MSU
UGA/UF
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:01 pm to
Nope...SEC teams = SEC conf. game
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:03 pm to
The SEC won't split same-state schools. So, what's the solution?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:06 pm to
Teams A-C are 6-2 with 3 common rotation opponents.
Team D is 6-2 with 2 (of the 3 common rotation opponents).

How are they sorted?
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 4:10 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41307 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:13 pm to
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Jesus, so who the fck did UGA even play. Dooley needs an asterisk next to his SEC "titles".


Georgia always had a bye before the Florida game while Fla always played Auburn that week. frick Vince Dooley
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 9:30 pm to
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The SEC schedule?No...are you freaking retarded?

That was decided among the AD's along with the rotation schedule.

Show me 1 shred of evidence to the contrary.


I'll give you evidence. There was no SEC schedule and there was no rotation schedule between 1964 and 1988 when Vince Dooley was HC at UGA. Each school made out their own schedule. There was an SEC rule requiring each school to schedule a minimum of 6 SEC games each season.

During Dooley's 25 years as UGA's HC, UGA never scheduled more than the 6 game minimum. In fact UGA only scheduled 149 SEC games during his 25 years which was one game below the 150 minimum which should have been scheduled. That occurring in 1966 when UGA scheduled just 5 SEC games and the SEC "appointed" the UNC game as a conference game so that UGA would not be in violation of the 6 game minimum rule.

During the same period, Bama scheduled 165 SEC games which was 15 more than the minimum required. Bama attempted to schedule all nine of the other SEC schools every year during that period. They never accomplished that but they were able to schedule eight in 1972 and 1973. Those were two of the EIGHT years that UGA was willing to schedule Bama during that 25 year period.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 9:54 pm to
He's still Alive?
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 10:34 pm to
There are MLB pitchers who win 12-15 games per year. They have no desire to win 20 games in a season because then it would be expected of them every year. Had Vince Dooley been a MLB pitcher, he would fit in that category.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10900 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 10:49 pm to
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this is a laughably bad idea

Why? Y'all scared of playing Bama every year?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30101 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 11:02 pm to
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I want to keep it at eight games. Have either three or four permanent games and rotate the other five or four games. I am leaning to four and four.


You honestly want to watch your team play Rentawin Tech (paying the same price) over seeing your school play an SEC foe??? The 9-game slate solves two problems. Your school plays every other conference team more often, plus it gets one of these godawful OOC ritual sacrifices off the schedule.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5330 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 12:14 am to
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East would be VOLS UGA UF Bama Auburn UK SC 5/6 of the big 6 in one division im sure anyone left in the West would love that


What big 6 are you talking about? Tennessee has not been relevant in the national picture for almost 2 decades.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:41 am to
You never said that when the kept beating Alabama.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 5:17 am to
Pod system solves all the problems.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 5:45 am to
True

Would just have to figure out the scheduling format to keep 3 2-team pairs &, what was it, ~7 annual rivalries on the schedule.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 5:53 am to
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You honestly want to watch your team play Rentawin Tech (paying the same price) over seeing your school play an SEC foe???


Auburn and Tennessee are rentawins on our schedule just like Tech. I get that GT is a punching bag. But don't act like big 6 teams aren't our punching bags either. You aren't recommending that the SEC kicks out Auburn and Tennessee.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 6:08 am to
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I would be in favor of, although I doubt it ever happens since it's so radical, is having 3 permanent opponents (regardless of division) then rotate everyone else.


I agree. Every player should get the opportunity to play in The Swamp, Between the Hedges or Tiger Stadium, etc in their career. We don't need divisions. Let the teams with the two best regular season records play for the title. It would eliminate mismatches in the Title game.

I think you could even have as many as 4 permanent rivals and still allow for home and home with the other SEC programs within a 4 year period. It's as close to round robin as you can get and would make things more competitive. I'd like to see LSU play UGa and Tennessee more frequently or Bama vs Florida.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:35 am to
& you'ld need more tie-breakers to rank teams due to lack of common opponents. Divisions already sort 1/2 the conference.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:53 am to
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The Pac went to nine games because they had trouble getting fannies in seats with an additional non-conference game.



The PAC 12 has a geography problem. Unless you splash the cash its damn hard to lure a Midwest, Southern, or East Coast team out to play you. Which means most of their home game opponents tend to be Mountain West schools (who are notorious for not traveling well) or local FCS schools (which is why teams grit their teeth and continue to schedule Eastern Washington even after they collected a few PAC 12 scalps).
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:58 am to
Just move the cow college to the East and 10RC to the West and it's done. This moves gives 10RC.AU.UGA,and Bama what they want.
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