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Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:32 pm to LSU Patrick
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:32 pm to LSU Patrick
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Did they start in 1980?
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And that is with Alabama in our division. It would be very difficult for Georgia to win any SEC title if THEY HAD TO PLAY Bama every fricking year.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:37 pm to BHMKyle
Hey Tennessee
"We comin"
"We comin"
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:37 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:54 pm to BHMKyle
This thread is hilarious. Why the hell are LSU fans melting down over a basic post-SEC season update to the All-Time SEC Standings thread? Doesn't BHMKyle routinely do these?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:56 pm to Korin
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SEC Titles
1. Alabama (27)
2. Georgia (13)
2. Tennessee (13)
4. LSU (12)
5. Auburn (8)
5. Florida (8)
7. Ole Miss (6)
8. Kentucky (2)
9. Mississippi St (1)
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So you count stuff for Bama that was vacated but not for other programs.
Is something inaccurate about these numbers? Are you under the impression that Alabama has vacated SEC titles?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:20 pm to BHMKyle
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So should we take out the games
No, don't cherry pick at all. If you want to compare teams, compare teams. It's this whole "Big 6" thing that isn't consistent. Compare head to head for any period of record you want.
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They had a good decade in the 1950s and a great first four season of the 1960s, and that's really the only time they've been great in their entire history.
If you look at the 20 years from 1950-1970, you'll see:
#1. Mississippi (0.753)
#10. Tennessee (0.692)
#17. Alabama (0.667)
#19. LSU (0.651)
#23. Auburn (0.640)
#27. Florida (0.622)
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#54. Georgia (0.552)
That's a 20 year stretch when Mississippi was on top, and UGA was pretty far down.
But, whatever, if you want to call Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee "Big 6" from the start of the SEC to today, that's your prerogative. I personally just won't put much stock into it.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:22 pm to BHMKyle
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How many times do I have to tell you?
Just once. Don't assume I read all of your threads before responding to the first reply.
Okay, I get it, you think Auburn has been Big 6 since the start of the SEC, I don't. Big deal, little problem.
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its not debatable.
Of course it is. tB6 isn't even really a thing.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:28 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, don't cherry pick at all. If you want to compare teams, compare teams. It's this whole "Big 6" thing that isn't consistent. Compare head to head for any period of record you want.
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They had a good decade in the 1950s and a great first four season of the 1960s, and that's really the only time they've been great in their entire history.
If you look at the 20 years from 1950-1970, you'll see:
#1. Mississippi (0.753)
#10. Tennessee (0.692)
#17. Alabama (0.667)
#19. LSU (0.651)
#23. Auburn (0.640)
#27. Florida (0.622)
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#54. Georgia (0.552)
That's a 20 year stretch when Mississippi was on top, and UGA was pretty far down.
But, whatever, if you want to call Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee "Big 6" from the start of the SEC to today, that's your prerogative. I personally just won't put much stock into it.
Well done, between 1947 and 1970 Ole Miss won the most SEC titles with 6 and had an SEC record of 106-39-10 I think, by far the best over that 23 year period. LSU won 3 titles, TENN I think 3 and Bama 4 over that period.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:40 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Yeah, 'cause everybody knows Mississippi is a powerhouse.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Woo hoo! Next year we'll tie for 2nd!
SEC Titles
1. Alabama (27)
2. Georgia (13)
2. Tennessee (13)
4. LSU (12)
5. Auburn (8)
5. Florida (8)
7. Ole Miss (6)
8. Kentucky (2)
9. Mississippi St (1)
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:51 pm to Cadello
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It’s about moral victories as I stated earlier.
All the responses and downvotes in the world won’t change 37-10.
I've never rooted against a SEC time like I'll root against LSU from hence forward. Fuk loyalty. I look forward to the classless LSU fans to eat crow shite.
Fuk 'em.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:55 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, don't cherry pick at all. If you want to compare teams, compare teams.
That's exactly what I did. I compared how all the teams have done in the history of the SEC, and then also showed how each team has performed against the Big 6.
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It's this whole "Big 6" thing that isn't consistent.
Sure it is. It's a measure of how each program has performed against the VERY CLEAR Top 6 teams since the origin of the SEC in 1933.
You're the one wanting to cherry pick by counting Ole Miss for a couple decades and take out Auburn and Florida in some others.
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If you look at the 20 years from 1950-1970, you'll see:
So first you say, "don't cherry pick" and then you want to single out two decades of SEC football right out of the middle. Do I have that right?
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But, whatever, if you want to call Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee "Big 6" from the start of the SEC to today, that's your prerogative.
My "prerogative" is based upon concrete facts. Those have been the Top 6 programs by a mile if you look at the history of the SEC from 1933-present. If you have a problem with it, deal with it. Those are the facts.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:56 pm to BHMKyle
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Interesting that Tennessee and LSU have played the fewest number of games against the Big 6 out of the group, yet also have the weakest winning percentage against the Big 6.
We didn't play Georgia or Florida regularly until expansion. We played Alabama and Auburn and instead of UGA and UF we scheduled strong OOC teams (that's probably why we still have the habit of scheduling strong OOC teams).
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:59 pm to BHMKyle
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Interesting that Tennessee and LSU have played the fewest number of games against the Big 6 out of the group, yet also have the weakest winning percentage against the Big 6.
Whatever helps you cope with the 0-2 losing streak to shrimpboat captain lil breaux
Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:02 pm to Korin
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SEC Titles
1. Alabama (27)
2. Georgia (13)
2. Tennessee (13)
4. LSU (12)
5. Auburn (8)
5. Florida (8)
7. Ole Miss (6)
8. Kentucky (2)
9. Mississippi St (1)quote:
So you count stuff for Bama that was vacated but not for other programs.
Alabama has never had a SEC Championship vacated.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:03 pm to elposter
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Is something inaccurate about these numbers? Are you under the impression that Alabama has vacated SEC titles?
Yet you count all of Bama’s forfeited and vacated wins. Can’t have it both ways.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:04 pm to Cobb Dawg
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everybody knows Mississippi is a powerhouse.
That's the whole point, NO ONE seems to know what a powerhouse they were for an extended period of time. Johnny Vaught just didn't lose a lot of football games. He was 4-2 vs UGA and 3-2 vs Auburn. He was 10-6 vs Tennessee, 13-6-3 vs LSU, but only 2-5 vs Alabama.
Mississippi was a good football team for 20 years, and UGA nor Auburn wouldn't really know it, because they rarely played them.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:08 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
It’s because their decline started once black guys were allowed to play. Which is kind of a big deal.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:13 pm to BHMKyle
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Those have been the Top 6 programs by a mile if you look at the history of the SEC from 1933-present. If you have a problem with it, deal with it.
But not consistently for the whole period of record.
From 1933 to 1975 (the first half of SEC history), Mississippi was in the top 6 for win%, Florida was not. You want to count all the wins racked up by UGA and Auburn against Florida all that time they sucked as "Big 6 wins". Meanwhile, wins against one of the top 3 programs during that time don't count as "Big 6" wins. That's just dumb.
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Those are the facts.
Indeed.
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