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re: UNLV QB quits immediately over NIL
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:06 am to Allthatfades
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:06 am to Allthatfades
This shite is done.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:07 am to Allthatfades
This sport is such a mess right now and nobody is even trying to fix it.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:08 am to Allthatfades
How much did he think he was going to get at UNLV
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:11 am to n64ra
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Wait until the players sue to be able to transfer mid-season and play immediately.
The trick here is you can't switch schools midstream academically, so as long as academics are a part of the equation, then this won't happen.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:14 am to Allthatfades
What a pussy. He did let down his teammates. But this could be a catalyst for the adults in the room to take notice and regulate NIL or at least more than a half arse attempt to
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 8:15 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:16 am to Gravitiger
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A) Yet you still watch it and argue with strangers on the internet about it
Three generations of my family have followed CFB, owning season tickets for over 40 years. Some of us played at the P4 level.
It’s how we spent parts of our fall for my entire life, tailgating and often going to road games with friends and family. In the process we’ve spent and donated well into the 7 figures.
I certainly don’t need your approval to weigh in on the current state of CFB.
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B) What attempts to reign it in have "the feds" shot down? No one has sued to "reign it in", just the opposite. NCAA has fought tooth and nail to not involve "the feds".
Federal courts have ruled in favor of the athletes and against the NCAA in every case to date, striking down any attempt to limit transfers or establish rules around NIL.
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And why should they? Why should "the feds" limit how much anyone can make in exchange for their work?
Because no sport or business can function without contracts. If one party can exit an agreement without consequence you don’t have a sustainable sport or in this case business model because no one has to negotiate in good faith if the courts won’t hold one party to their commitments.
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They are employees in every practical sense. It is absurd to deny them the option to unionize and collectively bargain, if that is what they choose.
Make no mistake the government doesn’t care about the athletes. They just see an opportunity to unionize, regulate and tax a new industry and can’t wait to get in the middle of it.
In the process they’re breaking the appeal of the product to the consumers who they need to sell it to live or on TV.
The west coast outside of Oregon and Washington have already moved on from CFB.
The NE never really cared because it’s an NFL area.
The entire sport now rests on the B1G and SEC and even there ticket sales are rapidly declining. The schools can survive as long as TV revenue continues to make up the deficit, but as more and more lifetime fans decide whether as a result of skyrocketing costs or general dislike of the current transfer portal/NIL era that they have better things to do with their Saturdays the sport will have to live on casual fans and gamblers to sustain itself.
I’m fine with players getting paid.
I’m fine with replacing the NCAA middle man structure.
I’m fine with players transferring in a structured way.
But you can’t tear down a structure without having a plan to replace it with something better. When you have QBs quitting on their team midway through the season to chase a new contract with his third team in three years that’s not a better structure.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:18 am to Miznoz
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if you promise to pay someone you pay them or you don't get their services
I would like to hear the UNLV side of it for sure. How do we know that he wasn't already paid whatever NIL was owed to him and maybe next year would increase as incentive based on what he did this year? Along comes XYZ University and says, "Oh, we'll pay you that and more if you go ahead and drop now, use you redshirt, and play two years for us." Which I would consider tampering and said player would be denied a transfer to this school.
It's insane that these players signing NIL deals aren't on a contract.
Let me pose it this way. Would this guy still receive his NIL if he just said, I want to be on the team but I'm not going to play?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:20 am to Lg
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hich I would consider tampering and said player would be denied a transfer to this school.
Every school is guilty of tampering. Yes, even your school.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 8:21 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:26 am to Allthatfades
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In a 23-20 win over Kansas
Goodness Kansas sucks so much
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:27 am to Lg
He's a 5th year graduate transfer, this is his last year of eligibility. Last year unless he quits now, in which case his true and final year would be 2025 season. That's why he's quitting now.
Edit, BTW I think if he plays more than 4 games in a season it counts as using the season respective to eligibility. could be wrong though, but that's redshirt rule anyway.
Edit, BTW I think if he plays more than 4 games in a season it counts as using the season respective to eligibility. could be wrong though, but that's redshirt rule anyway.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:28 am to HottyToddy7
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Every school is guilty of tampering. Yes, even your school.
So every school is already calling players on other teams offering them better deals? Then college football has passed the point of no return. That's even frowned upon in the NFL.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:28 am to Tiger_Claw
Everyone thinks this is no big deal until it happens to their team.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:32 am to Victor R Franko
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He's a 5th year graduate transfer, this is his last year of eligibility. Last year unless he quits now, in which case his true and final year would be 2025 season. That's why he's quitting now.
Understood.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:33 am to Lg
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So every school is already calling players on other teams offering them better deals?
Their high school coaches and handlers never stopped getting calls. Portal recruiting is 365 days a year and half of that is recruiting your own players to stay.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:34 am to Miznoz
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that's a bitch arse thing to say,
Frick. Them. Kids.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:38 am to Allthatfades
This just screams tampering
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:39 am to ukraine_rebel
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Good for him! I wonder how many times this happened before open NIL era and players were just stuck. If a collective doesn’t meet their obligations, then by all means sit out and transfer to someone else who will.
My lord, what a shite take
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:40 am to GetCocky11
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My lord, what a shite take
Why? It is spot on.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 8:41 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:40 am to HottyToddy7
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Just reading this thread some of yall are clueless on how NCAAF football works in 2024.
He is claiming he had an NIL deal and they aren't fulfilling their obligation to the agreed deal. I actually agree with the kid. Everyone has NIL deals now. If what they agreed to pay you and what they are paying you isn’t the same then this is your only move. This is on the school.
If your school is in the SEC they are making these deals with every player on your roster. If your school stopped paying your players would do the same. This is the world we live in now.
While I agree with your take...
It just enforces the fact that the kid is only at UNLV for the money. In his mind....He isn't "quitting" on his teammates because he didn't come there for his "teammates". He chose to go to UNLV because of the money. He had "teammates" back at Holy Cross.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:43 am to ukraine_rebel
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The trick here is you can't switch schools midstream academically, so as long as academics are a part of the equation, then this won't happen.
I don't understand why Academics are part of the equation anyway. If you're an employee i don't understand why you have limited eligibility beyond your ability to do the job. If Reggie bush can make a claim to sue the NCAA, USC and whoever else, why cant Tim Tebow sue UF and the NCAA? You know how much money that guy could have made over the last 10-12 years in lost NIL money as an employee/athlete at UF without the stipulation that he has a limited number of eligible years.
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