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re: UGA vs UT -- Matchups, Emotion, Turnovers, & Scheme

Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:26 pm to
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Seems like the nfl draft is the only thing that will convince you that you are wrong, and even then you would come up with an absurd attempt to spin it away.


Actually Dline TFL, Sacks, tackles, assists actual statistical significance would work. Show me the Dline is more than space eaters (spoiler: they are space eaters). Show me tangible input from the Dline.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:57 pm to
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Show me the Dline is more than space eaters (spoiler: they are space eaters). Show me tangible input from the Dline.



This saturday, watch the DLs shoulders and hands. You might learn something about how a DL should play in the trenches.

Do you know what you are looking for?
Posted by molardog1
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:03 pm to
“Buncha no names”. ....saved for posterity
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:07 pm to
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Do you know what you are looking for?


I’ve played Dline and studied for decades. I get nuance of the position. I get it. UGA teaches basic techniques.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:08 pm to
1. I pointed out how our OLB’s are essentially used to do what the DE did in the old days. It went over your head.

2. I provided you examples of advanced stats and big plays. You ignored them.

3. The guy who made that game clinching sack vs auburn 2019 was covering wheel routes downfield vs auburn 2020. You didn’t even see it. 2 guys I haven’t even mentioned are used as short yardage blockers. You missed that too.

4. This isn’t the old uga that doesn’t have much NFL talent going against OL’s. All 6 of these guys will be relatively high draft picks, and that’s not counting the edge rushers mentioned above. You will ignore that as well.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:27 pm to
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UGA teaches basic techniques.


UGA executes the techniques to better leverage the offensive linemen.

That is rare in college. That is why Malik Herring was the 2nd highest rated PFF player in the SEC returning. That is why Jordan Davis is a beast.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:06 pm to
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better leverage


He thinks our depth refutes this idea.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:14 am to
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UT OL vs UGA DL - Draw. UT maybe more talented, UGA stout and more experienced

I wouldn't say UT is more talented. It's like saying Kellen Mond is more talented than Kyle Trask but Trask is more experienced. Our only 3* on the dline is pre-season First Team ALL-SEC(Malik Herring also). We also have three 5*s on the dline in a rotation. I would argue UT's Oline vs Dawgs Dline isn't more talented but could be just as experienced based on games played.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 1:49 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:24 am to
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Our only 3* on the dline is pre-season First Team ALL-SEC(Malik Herring also). We also have three 5*s on the dline in a rotation.


Correct. We have 3 stars proving their HS ranking to be wrong and 5 stars living up to their hype. This is different for uga.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15928 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:37 am to
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That is rare in college. That is why Malik Herring was the 2nd highest rated PFF player in the SEC returning. That is why Jordan Davis is a beast.


And with 9 guys rotating it keeps them fresh which is the biggest advantage
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:39 am to
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1. I pointed out how our OLB’s are essentially used to do what the DE did in the old days.


Are we talking Dlimemen or front 7. Make up your mind or have someone explain the difference.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:41 am to
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We have 3 stars proving their HS ranking to be wrong and 5 stars living up to their hype. This is different for uga.


Leave either in for a whole game like most team (actually most of a game would be more apt) and that opinion changes drastically. It’s the rotation stupid
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:56 am to
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Are we talking Dlimemen or front 7. Make up your mind or have someone explain the difference.


Talking about edge rushers, which includes 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB. They function in similar roles.

You should understand that if you study football. Why don’t you understand that?
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 9:57 am
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:56 am to
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Are we talking Dlimemen or front 7. Make up your mind or have someone explain the difference.

Nolan Smith is listed as an OLB but plays with his hands in the dirt.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32852 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:04 am to
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Leave either in for a whole game like most team (actually most of a game would be more apt) and that opinion changes drastically. It’s the rotation stupid



It IS the rotation, the QUALITY of the rotation be exact. Everyone rotates their DL as it’s a necessity in today’s game more than ever, but Not everyone rotates the same quality of players uga does. That’s the difference.

We haven’t had this kind of talent going against the OL since pollack left. We aren’t used to this, and you clearly aren’t either. Props go to our head coach for recruiting the guys, developing them properly, and coaching them up.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15928 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:12 am to
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Talking about edge rushers, which includes 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB. They function in similar roles.


DBs creep up to the line situationally. Want to include them too?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32852 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:19 am to
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DBs creep up to the line situationally. Want to include them too?


No, of course not as they don’t typically function like a big edge player does. DBs are very very different than edge rushers. You must have gone to a terrible football school.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15928 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:21 am to
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Nolan Smith is listed as an OLB but plays with his hands in the dirt.


I can’t remember the last time I saw a 3/4 D play in a pure 3/4 base most of the time. Tennessee’s 3/4 is a 5/2 more often than not with plenty of 4/1 fronts. It’s the great thing about having Henry T able to drop into coverage.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32852 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 10:29 am to
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can’t remember the last time I saw a 3/4 D play in a pure 3/4 base most of the time.


Because the game has changed.

Now your coach is trying to replicate what Kirby has done in response, so it’s beyond silly to see you try to diminish that.
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 11:41 am to
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 11:42 am
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