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re: Tuscaloosa Patch has defense attorneys walk thru self-defense law re: Jamea Harris killing
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:45 pm to ScoggDog
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:45 pm to ScoggDog
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those who brought the gun to the scene - as well as those who fired the gun at the scene -
Davis and Miles brought the only gun to the scene or are you just looking at it from one perspective?
There was another gun brought to the scene where Davis and Miles were already at. Davis and Miles didn't drive up on the Jeep. The jeep drove up on them.
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:45 pm to ScoggDog
quote:nobody has ever said Miller didn't know the gun was in his car you dumb frick. People have said it's not clear if he ever read miles text that arrived just as he was already pulling up, because it's not clear. I know you dumb bastards hate when someone craps on your little narrative that Miller drove up, blocked poor Johnson and Harris in when they were just trying to get to church, loaded the gun for miles and Davis and said 'go shoot that bitch' while twirling his mustache
Beautiful. We've went from "Miller had no idea there was a gun in the backseat" to "Miller had a reasonable belief that his buddy needed a gat to defend himself against somebody fakin'".
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:47 pm to ScoggDog
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Beautiful. We've went from "Miller had no idea there was a gun in the backseat" to "Miller had a reasonable belief that his buddy needed a gat to defend himself against somebody fakin'".
Is that not exactly the case though?
Weird how quickly 2nd Amendment fans start demanding that people attempt to flea before defending themselves
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:49 pm to BFANLC
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Davis and Miles brought the only gun to the scene or are you just looking at it from one perspective? There was another gun brought to the scene where Davis and Miles were already at. Davis and Miles didn't drive up on the Jeep. The jeep drove up on them.
Hence, Bammers really should just stop talking. Now, we should be giving Miller a medal. Without his quick thinking and bold action ... poor Davis and Miles would have been caught defenseless. Hell ... Miller deserves a medal. You know, for bringing the weapon to the crime scene used to kill a woman.
Good grief - I'm really starting to think it's LSU alters trolling Alabama.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:51 pm to ScoggDog
quote:I know you hate accurate statements, but his friend gave the gun to another friend, and it's not clear if that friend started the shooting or returned fire when fired upon by a guy who had been stalking then around the area with his lights off and pulled up on them. So how did any of that reflect on Miller? There is not one shred of evidence he had any intent to bring a firearm to a shootout or even know there was an altercation happening. You stupid simple twat
who then got the gun out of the car and fired it through a car window, killing a woman.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:52 pm to Glorious
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Weird how quickly 2nd Amendment fans start demanding that people attempt to flea before defending themselves
Now it's getting good. Miles and Davis - thanks to the courage of our good hero, Brandon Miller - simply stood their ground while pumping a couple through a car window, and ultimately through a woman's chest.
Won't be long until Miles and Davis start showing up on NRA mailers at the house, I guess. I wonder if they'll match my one time donation, as long as I act now.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:54 pm to ScoggDog
I should point out to Mr Dog that the Jeep drove up to where Davis and Miles were, they sure didn't go looking for the occupants of the Jeep.
The Jeep pulled up behind Millers car lights off and we do have testimony that the deceased passed a weapon to a passenger who fired the first shots in this gunfight.
Said person is MIA at this time.
The Jeep pulled up behind Millers car lights off and we do have testimony that the deceased passed a weapon to a passenger who fired the first shots in this gunfight.
Said person is MIA at this time.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:59 pm to antibarner
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I should point out to Mr Dog that the Jeep drove up to where Davis and Miles were, they sure didn't go looking for the occupants of the Jeep.
That's a wrap ... thanks to the quick thinking of our hero, Brandon Miller ... Misters Miles and Davis were able to save their own lives during an otherwise peaceful night out on the town. At the minimum, Brandon Miller should get the keys to Tuscaloosa.
You people really have convinced yourselves of this, haven't you. Yes, you have. It's like Bizarro To Kill a Mockingbird.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:04 pm to ScoggDog
quote:sorry you're so salty that your basketball team sucks arse. You don't give a shite about the shooting, the woman, or any of that, you just hate that bama is good and Miller is a part of that. You are a pathetic piece of shite
That's a wrap ... thanks to the quick thinking of our hero, Brandon Miller ... Misters Miles and Davis were able to save their own lives during an otherwise peaceful night out on the town. At the minimum, Brandon Miller should get the keys to Tuscaloosa.
You people really have convinced yourselves of this, haven't you. Yes, you have. It's like Bizarro To Kill a Mockingbird.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:17 pm to ScoggDog
You win the prize for stupidest fricker on the internet today. Congratulations
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:24 pm to narddogg81
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nobody has ever said Miller didn't know the gun was in his car you dumb frick.
Perhaps dozens of Alabama fans have argued exactly that on this board.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:30 pm to the808bass
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Perhaps dozens of Alabama fans have argued exactly that on this board.
Sure.
It would be accurate to say there is no evidence Miller knew the gun was in his car. If there is evidence, it hasn't been made known to us yet.
Maybe he did know. Maybe he read the text. Maybe Miles told him he was leaving it in the backseat. We don't know. It's all conjecture right now.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:31 pm to BrerTiger
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Alabama's "Stand Your Ground" law
That went out the window when he broke contact, went to get a gun, then re-engaged by aproaching the car.
Those same three actions will likely remove grounds for a self-defense claim. When he approached the car, he became the aggressor every bit as much as the other guy.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:39 pm to narddogg81
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nobody has ever said Miller didn't know the gun was in his car you dumb frick
People are confusing things we don't know for certain (but think are likely) with things that are PROVABLE IN A COURT OF LAW.
Even at that, it's not hard to imagine that Miles might have left his gun in the backseat without saying a word to Miller and that Miller may have honestly just been going back to pick up Miles without any clue to what he was really coming up on.
A lot of folks are working backwards from the bad outcome and assuming that Miller MUST have known a lot more than he likely did just because he got a cryptic text that he didn't respond to and happened to have the gun his friend left in the backseat presumably because you can't take that shite in the club.
All that said, I hope Brandon Miller has lots of time to rest up for the NBA draft after Bama loses this weekend.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:41 pm to Tw1st3d
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That went out the window when he broke contact, went to get a gun, then re-engaged by approaching the car.
Those same three actions will likely remove grounds for a self-defense claim. When he approached the car, he became the aggressor every bit as much as the other guy.
That is what my gut tells me too but going to be very interesting to see how this plays out at trial.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:46 pm to BrerTiger
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it's not hard to imagine that Miles might have left his gun in the backseat with saying a word to Miller
It’s hard to imagine. Miles didn’t text saying “oh by the way, my firearm is located in the back seat of your car and I would like to request you bring it.”
He said “ I need my joint.” He didn’t tell Miller where the joint was. Almost certainly because Miller already knew exactly where his joint was.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:25 am to the808bass
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Almost certainly because Miller already knew exactly where his joint was.
Almost certainly in the court of tRant but not in any real courtroom.
You'd have better odds of getting him to admit he ordered the Code Red.
It doesn't really matter how many of y'all are convinced Miller knew full well he was carrying a loaded gun back to his pal. Real evidence is severely lacking unless there's something in that dashcam footage, cell phone evidence or they get somebody else to contradict Miller's version of events.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:45 am to BrerTiger
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Almost certainly in the court of tRant but not in any real courtroom.
You mean that we all know it but it’s hard to prove in court. Yeah. I agree.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:49 am to the808bass
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It’s hard to imagine. Miles didn’t text saying “oh by the way, my firearm is located in the back seat of your car and I would like to request you bring it.”
He said “ I need my joint.” He didn’t tell Miller where the joint was. Almost certainly because Miller already knew exactly where his joint was.
Miller was already on his way to pick up Miles and Davis, and almost there when Miles texted about his "joint." Miller didn't expect, conspire or intend for Miles or Davis to shoot anyone. Therefore, Miller is not an accessory to the alledged murder of Harris. He's a fully cooperative witness. Also, Miles and Davis might not get convicted for murder. Instead, Cedric Johnson, an AU fan and former student, might get arrested and prosecuted for attempted murder. We'll see.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:03 am to TidalSurge1
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Miller was already on his way to pick up Miles and Davis, and almost there when Miles texted about his "joint."
That changes exactly zero about my post.
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He's a fully cooperative witness.
So fully cooperative that we don’t know who was in the car with him when he arrived to Grace St.
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Also, Miles and Davis might not get convicted;for murder. Instead, Johnson (former AU student and fan) might get arrested and prosecuted for attempted murder
Sure. And I could become a world-famous DJ and headline at Ibiza.
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