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re: Tulane and JMU do not belong in the CFP
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:18 am to BuckeyeGoon
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:18 am to BuckeyeGoon
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The top 10 teams in the sec would have all gone undefeated with james madison's schedule.
Exactly. The P4 used to need to keep G5 conferences happy so they'd be willing to fill in the non-conference slate. Because of super conferences and more conference game/cross conference requirements - that need is going away.
With that, the G5 schedules are only going to get even worse. I know this feeds into their argument that they are systemically being shut out, but come on - look at the regular season records for G5 vs P4. Aren't they really a separate tier already? (and forget the bowl records - we all know bowls are meaningless.)
Ultimately - I say get rid of the auto qualifiers completely. If you are a top 12 team, you are in. Doesn't matter if you are in a P4, G5 or in no conference - you should be in if you are top 12 (or 16 or 24 or whatever the number is). If the SEC, ACC, B1G, or Big XII don't have a team in the top 12 - they should sit it out. Honestly, they should be embarrassed that they are in that situation in the first place.
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:39 am to Simple Solution
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Imagine if the games this weekend involved ND@Ole Miss and Texas or Vandy @ Oregon. We're missing out on some epic matches. Why?
You will have more teams like them when they expand to 16 teams, 32 teams or 36 teams as some on this board advocate for.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:51 am to Simple Solution
I wouldn’t mind breaking away from professional football. Yall go pay players and we will go back to scholarships.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:56 am to TexasWranglers
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In that case honest question does Texas, Vandy, or OU beat Tulane or jmu? And if so what’s the spread?
No question. Texas, Vandy, ND all beat Tulane and JMU by 14+, just like Ole Miss and Oregon are about to do.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:56 am to New Money
I’m tired of the conference champion metric. Outside of the SEC or the big 10 it’s not really much of an accomplishment.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:02 am to GreatPumpkin
I agree with you and if these are professional teams with professional players, I don’t want to pay professional prices to see a SEC school play a CUSA school.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:05 am to Simple Solution
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Imagine if the games this weekend involved ND@Ole Miss and Texas or Vandy @ Oregon. We're missing out on some epic matches. Why?
We are missing out on the Texas/Vandy vs. Oregon matchup because the SEC and Big Ten don't want to get sued by the little conferences for anti-trust claims, or have legislators poking their noses into this issues. It's as simple as that, and a reasonable solution.
We are missing ND at Ole Miss thanks to: (1) the death of the Pac 12, which was still around when these rules were drafted; and, (2) the failure of the ACC to get its best team into its conference championship game. That's where the problem is. One mismatch (Tulane vs Oregon) would have been fine. Two was not what anyone intended.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:06 am to Simple Solution
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We're missing out on some epic matches. Why?
because today's society is built on "everyone gets a trophy" participation awards. When the powers that be felt a deep sadness in their puny hearts because the little guy didn't have a chance to be champion over the bama's of the world, they decided we needed to make everything more "fair" and let the little guy in despite having less than zero business being anywhere near it.
And just like last year we will see shite games in the first round with the 11 and 12 seeds both being utterly demolished. But hey, at least they got a shot right!?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:39 am to Simple Solution
As someone already said, it is a legal issue. They would get slapped with a lawsuit with the quickness if they didn’t set aside a spot for G5. Now you can thank the ACC for being so terrible as to why there are 2 G5’s in it this year
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:53 am to GreatPumpkin
It’s the College Football Playoff; not the SEC/Big10 Challenge.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:53 am to TexasWranglers
4th and 5th place teams shouldn’t make a playoff.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:18 pm to New Money
That’s fine but they should earn it by playing good competition. The way things are right now incentivizes teams playing soft schedules. It’s bad for the game.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:31 pm to Simple Solution
No team below 4 does. Below that is just playoff welfare. Imagine a Bammer crying about this though. News flash...you don't belong either.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:34 pm to New Money
If that’s your opinion that means at a max big and sec gets 6 teams total. Which means you think the other conferences deserve 6. So this years that’s byu, tech, Miami, jmu, Tulane, and Nd or Utah.
That’s a pretty weak playoff. If that’s the case just stay at 8.
With 16 teams in the sec there’s going to be a ton tied given the 8 game schedule. Having a hard line rule of only top 3 teams makes no sense. This year alone 4 teams tied for 1st in conference and 3 tied for 5-7 place.
That’s a pretty weak playoff. If that’s the case just stay at 8.
With 16 teams in the sec there’s going to be a ton tied given the 8 game schedule. Having a hard line rule of only top 3 teams makes no sense. This year alone 4 teams tied for 1st in conference and 3 tied for 5-7 place.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:50 pm to GreatPumpkin
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I’m tired of the conference champion metric. Outside of the SEC or the big 10 it’s not really much of an accomplishment.
It doesn't matter in the SEC to hear the little Bammers talk.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:34 pm to Simple Solution
They absolutely do belong based on the rules of the playoff.
Top 5 conference champs get in. Them's the rules.
Top 5 conference champs get in. Them's the rules.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:38 pm to twk
1000% correct. I just wish the big / sec would say “F it sue us if you want but we are going with what’s best for the sport”
They won’t because they don’t want to be dragged into litigation and the easiest and most profitable solution is to expand the playoffs. At some point it makes the regulars season not as important but they have sold their soul to advertisers so they don’t really care
They won’t because they don’t want to be dragged into litigation and the easiest and most profitable solution is to expand the playoffs. At some point it makes the regulars season not as important but they have sold their soul to advertisers so they don’t really care
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:39 pm to WG_Dawg
Agreed the everyone gets a trophy culture sucks, but that’s not why. Twk aggie later laid it out perfectly. It’s about not being sued by the G5 period. If the sec and big could get a bigger piece of the pie they would. Do you really think the ncaa, networks, and P4 added the G5 clause because of the everyone gets a trophy culture?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:40 pm to New Money
Then make the schedules remotely similar
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:41 pm to Simple Solution
Giving the G5 an automatic playoff bid is too generous.
In the NIL era, the gap between P5 and G5 is going to get wider and wider.
I believe only one G5 school should get a shot, and they should qualify for a play-in game for the 12th spot.
This year it should've been ND at 11, and then Vanderbilt vs. the G5 champ for the 12th spot.
In the NIL era, the gap between P5 and G5 is going to get wider and wider.
I believe only one G5 school should get a shot, and they should qualify for a play-in game for the 12th spot.
This year it should've been ND at 11, and then Vanderbilt vs. the G5 champ for the 12th spot.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 2:42 pm
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