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re: Tulane and JMU do not belong in the CFP

Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:18 am to
Posted by LOTOTiger
Member since May 2025
140 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:18 am to
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The top 10 teams in the sec would have all gone undefeated with james madison's schedule.


Exactly. The P4 used to need to keep G5 conferences happy so they'd be willing to fill in the non-conference slate. Because of super conferences and more conference game/cross conference requirements - that need is going away.

With that, the G5 schedules are only going to get even worse. I know this feeds into their argument that they are systemically being shut out, but come on - look at the regular season records for G5 vs P4. Aren't they really a separate tier already? (and forget the bowl records - we all know bowls are meaningless.)

Ultimately - I say get rid of the auto qualifiers completely. If you are a top 12 team, you are in. Doesn't matter if you are in a P4, G5 or in no conference - you should be in if you are top 12 (or 16 or 24 or whatever the number is). If the SEC, ACC, B1G, or Big XII don't have a team in the top 12 - they should sit it out. Honestly, they should be embarrassed that they are in that situation in the first place.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61656 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:39 am to
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Imagine if the games this weekend involved ND@Ole Miss and Texas or Vandy @ Oregon. We're missing out on some epic matches. Why?


You will have more teams like them when they expand to 16 teams, 32 teams or 36 teams as some on this board advocate for.
Posted by TROJANFORCEONE
Member since Aug 2022
358 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:51 am to
I wouldn’t mind breaking away from professional football. Yall go pay players and we will go back to scholarships.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22867 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:56 am to
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In that case honest question does Texas, Vandy, or OU beat Tulane or jmu? And if so what’s the spread?


No question. Texas, Vandy, ND all beat Tulane and JMU by 14+, just like Ole Miss and Oregon are about to do.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
3039 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:56 am to
I’m tired of the conference champion metric. Outside of the SEC or the big 10 it’s not really much of an accomplishment.
Posted by TROJANFORCEONE
Member since Aug 2022
358 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:02 am to
I agree with you and if these are professional teams with professional players, I don’t want to pay professional prices to see a SEC school play a CUSA school.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2840 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:05 am to
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Imagine if the games this weekend involved ND@Ole Miss and Texas or Vandy @ Oregon. We're missing out on some epic matches. Why?


We are missing out on the Texas/Vandy vs. Oregon matchup because the SEC and Big Ten don't want to get sued by the little conferences for anti-trust claims, or have legislators poking their noses into this issues. It's as simple as that, and a reasonable solution.

We are missing ND at Ole Miss thanks to: (1) the death of the Pac 12, which was still around when these rules were drafted; and, (2) the failure of the ACC to get its best team into its conference championship game. That's where the problem is. One mismatch (Tulane vs Oregon) would have been fine. Two was not what anyone intended.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89573 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:06 am to
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We're missing out on some epic matches. Why?


because today's society is built on "everyone gets a trophy" participation awards. When the powers that be felt a deep sadness in their puny hearts because the little guy didn't have a chance to be champion over the bama's of the world, they decided we needed to make everything more "fair" and let the little guy in despite having less than zero business being anywhere near it.

And just like last year we will see shite games in the first round with the 11 and 12 seeds both being utterly demolished. But hey, at least they got a shot right!?
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
8388 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:39 am to
As someone already said, it is a legal issue. They would get slapped with a lawsuit with the quickness if they didn’t set aside a spot for G5. Now you can thank the ACC for being so terrible as to why there are 2 G5’s in it this year
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3586 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:53 am to
It’s the College Football Playoff; not the SEC/Big10 Challenge.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3586 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 11:53 am to
4th and 5th place teams shouldn’t make a playoff.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
3039 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:18 pm to
That’s fine but they should earn it by playing good competition. The way things are right now incentivizes teams playing soft schedules. It’s bad for the game.
Posted by Dawgs2122
Member since Dec 2024
1938 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:31 pm to
No team below 4 does. Below that is just playoff welfare. Imagine a Bammer crying about this though. News flash...you don't belong either.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 12:32 pm
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