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re: Top 5 SEC QBs

Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:40 am to
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:40 am to
They were extremely over hyped?
Posted by iHatecowbells
Southaven MS
Member since Sep 2018
549 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:49 am to
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Fromm is the best pure Qb in the Sec. Tua is the most electric and will have the better college career but Fromm will separate himself in the Nfl. Plus one is injury prone and the other isn’t.




As far as watching a fun quarterback that can make jaw dropping plays, Tua is one of the best I've seen. But if I was the type of guy who loves to see a pure pocket quarterback with sound mechanics and all that jazz, Fromm gets the nod.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:56 am to
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They were extremely over hyped?




Maybe. The talent was there, though, wasn't it? Auburn had some highly rated players across the DLine, in particular. Coaching?

I mean, you guys are very excited about getting the DLine back in tact, but lost your best LB and secondary players, didn't you? The most hyped part of the defense was the DLine.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:00 am to
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Returning QBs listed by Passer Rating in Conference games ...


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4 Guarantano



Guarantano had the fewest attempts of any starting QB in the SEC last season. Look for his attempts to increase dramatically under Chaney.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:22 am to
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Guarantano had the fewest attempts of any starting QB in the SEC last season. Look for his attempts to increase dramatically under Chaney.


Why? Pruitt probably has the same idea Kirby did for Chaney
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:25 am to
Defense just fell apart in the second half.

Got torched by big play after big play.

I think Hurts only through one pass that still netted more than 50 yards.

My memory is kind of hazy though.

And as far as the thread, I still think Bryant will be in the top three. Battle for first will be Tua and Fromm, providing Fromm has people to throw to.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:06 pm to
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He believed I was addressing OP. I was not. I was addressing the publication that I believed was responsible for originally releasing the info referred to.



What publication were you addressing? I'm still waiting on the link showing their spelling error?

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Therefore, he does owe me an apology.

My mistake


You make a mistake and other people should apologize?
Too funny. I hope you aren't married. Living hell with that feminine studies crap.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:12 pm to
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madmaxvol

You know you confused Samford for Stanford in that other thread, right?
Posted by Dawgsrule
Member since Apr 2017
1007 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 12:18 pm to
Just a side note to keep in mind, your offense will be run heavy from now on instead of the air raid “everyone run a fly” or “just get open” offense you’re used to.
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Ole Miss has been top 5 in passing offense each season since 2012, top 3 five of those seven seasons, and #1 twice, with 4 different quarterbacks and 3 different offensive coordinators. Also for everyone thats going to claim it'll be different because we lost most of our WR's, in those last 7 seasons there's been 5 different players that lead the team in yards.



It will be drastically different for a few reasons. Namely, as you mentioned, you are losing a shite ton of talent at WR and QB, and your incoming QB is all hype with no verifiable track record, other than acting like a douche in the Egg Bowl. On top of that, the common link in your passing offenses since 2012 was Hugh Freeze's offensive philosophy. True, Hugh Freeze has been gone for two years, but the man he hired to be OC, Phil Longo, was still there running his system. Finally, Rich Rod's offense has historically been run-first, and he's not going to dramatically change his philosophy for a one-year stopover prior to landing his next big gig.

Just some side notes for you to keep in mind.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:18 pm to
I know I'm an LSU fan, but burrow not being included in the top 5 sec qbs is a travesty. bullshite, and list is bullshite.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16549 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:29 pm to
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t will be drastically different for a few reasons. Namely, as you mentioned, you are losing a shite ton of talent at WR and QB, and your incoming QB is all hype with no verifiable track record, other than acting like a douche in the Egg Bowl. On top of that, the common link in your passing offenses since 2012 was Hugh Freeze's offensive philosophy. True, Hugh Freeze has been gone for two years, but the man he hired to be OC, Phil Longo, was still there running his system.


1. We lose alot at WR but have recruited well at that position as one might expect.

2. Inexperienced QB but has the ability to turn into a really good one. We will see how he can manage the game mentally

3. Longo was running Longo's system not Freeze's. Unless you just lump all "Spread" offenses into one.

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Rich Rod's offense has historically been run-first


Historically this is correct. I dont know if he ever had the passing talent that he has right now at Ole Miss.

These are all presumptions because its a new offensive staff and philosophy. We will see how it all plays out.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7116 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:39 pm to
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I know I'm an LSU fan




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but burrow not being included in the top 5 sec qbs is a travesty


Which means your bias cause you've seen him play and still convinced yourself that this is true.

Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
2329 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:44 pm to
Joe Borrow was outside the top 5 last year in attempts, yards, completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdowns, sacks (last place), and QB rating.
Posted by iHatecowbells
Southaven MS
Member since Sep 2018
549 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 3:11 pm to
QB passing numbers under Rich Rods

-1997&98 Shaun King 6000 yds 62 TDs
-2012 Matt Scott 3600 yds 27 TDS
-2014 Anu Solomon 3800 yds 28 TDs

I know its way outnumbered by rushing QBs like Pat White and Khalil Tate, but you can't say he would have to "dramatically change his philosophy", when any time he's been given a thrower and WRs, he throws the ball.

Also as much as Ole Miss has neglected recruiting many positions effectively, WR's always seem to be stocked up and ready to go.

Longo ran Longo's offense, not Freeze's. Werner ran Freezes. Which again is why I pointed out the number of OC's

Lastly Ta'amu had no track record nor was he recruited by hardly anyone, and had 5600 yds and 30 TDs in 19 games. Bo Wallace came from Arkansas St. then JUCO and left with 9500 yds and 62 TDs in three seasons so your "track record" point is also useless.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 3:29 pm to
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What publication were you addressing? I'm still waiting on the link showing their spelling error?



Are you fricking retarded? The ~6th post stated the info was taken from Lindy's SEC preview as both myself and two others have now pointed out to you. I clearly stated my mistake was believing that the info given in that particular post was accurate. You're either intentionally being a complete frickwad by repeatedly ignoring that pesky little fact or you actually are absent an even minimally functional brain.


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You make a mistake and other people should apologize?


You stated that if my pointing out a spelling error was attributable to me believing it was committed by a publication and not by the OP then you, in fact, owed me an apology. That is exactly what occurred but instead of honoring your word and admitting the obvious you insist on continuing to pitch a fit that makes a 3 year old child's temper tantrums look like well measured and apropos responses to even the most laughable situations.

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You make a mistake and other people should apologize?
Too funny. I hope you aren't married. Living hell with that feminine studies crap.



Unlike you, I did admit that I made the mistake of taking what was said in another post attributing the content of the original post to Lindy's SEC preview. Again, YOU were the one who stated that you'd owe me an apology if that was the case instead of what you'd assumed it to be which was that I was pointing out that the OP had misspelled Bentley's name.

Why in the hell are you getting so bent out of shape about this? Jesus Christ. It was a simple misunderstanding and you've escalated that into accusing me of what boils down to being a feminazi with your "feminine studies crap" comment. And no, I am not married and that fact has nothing to do with anything other than it is, quite simply, my personal preference. So very sorry that neither fits nor supports your petty narrative.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 3:52 pm to
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Defense just fell apart in the second half.

Got torched by big play after big play.




This is so shocking to me. With that DLine I would think every QB in the league would be running for their life. (Not trolling, I just have that much respect for the DLine)
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providing Fromm has people to throw to.
He's got plenty to throw to. A big bodied WR will have to step up, but we have Robertson (Former 5*) Blaylock (5*) Pickens (High 4* or 5*)....Pickens might have to be the go to big bodies receiver...Tyler Simmons will get an expanded role, but played a lot last year.

The big question will be the big bodied, physical receiver. We have tons of speedy go get the ball types, though.
Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
2329 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 3:54 pm to
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He's got plenty to throw to.


Not after they transfer.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6547 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 3:56 pm to
You know your conference has shitty QB's when Feliepe fricking Franks is in the top 5.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:06 pm to
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Not after they transfer.


Why would they transfer? They have a chance to step up and be the man now for a team that could play in the playoffs.
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