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re: To those wishing we could go backwards to the glorious 4-team CFP
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:08 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:08 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:in a 4 team model losing game 12 team as a double digit favorite against a 6 win team has consequences - shocking right?
in the four team system Ohio State does not make it
not so in a 12 team DEI TV ratings invitational -
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:22 pm to cornerstore
There is nothing mind boggling about it. Money, M-O-N-E-Y.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:24 pm to EV
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Basically, you can't continually redefine the postseason just because you don't like the results
Chalk won yesterday, as often happens in NFL playoffs, and March Madness
this.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:27 pm to TexasOnTop
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Those two teams are not comparable.
If the only measurement is the ability to win the national championship, then yes they are.
Alabama beat Georgia, who is an even better team than Tennessee.
Meanwhile, Texas is very unlikely to win it all and hasn't really shown an ability to beat high quality teams.
Ole Miss should be in as well, since they also beat Georgia showing they have the ability to beat top teams.
Or, we can just use some common sense and say that just because a team like Ohio St makes the best of the opportunity given to them it doesn't mean it's justification for them being there in the first place.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:29 pm to HTX Horn
4 wasnt Enough, 8 is the perfect number...but we passed right by that and will never go back.
In any given season there are only 4-5 teams that are legit national championship caliber, so 8 teams in allows for the odd year when there are more than 4 that have a shot to win it all.
After next round all the pretenders will be eliminated (and maybe two that could get the semi with different matchups) and the real playoffs start. Attrition becomes very critical from this point on. Georgia losing their QB isn't quite as bad as it could be since they've had a long time to get Stockton ready, anyone else losing their QB, RB #1, best WR or some O-line/D-line could be fricked.
Right now we're on the cusp...our RB#1 (who was going to be #2 or 3 until our real #1 missed the entire season) is banged up along with our 4 year starting center and starting RT. Remains to be seen how bad it is, (I don't expect all of them to be out) but I don't think the other playoff teams got banged up that badly. Oh...and Zona State has had a month to get everyone healthy.
I expect us to win that one, Georgia and Pedo State to advance, Oregon/tOSU is a tossup, I wouldn't put a dime on that game.
In any given season there are only 4-5 teams that are legit national championship caliber, so 8 teams in allows for the odd year when there are more than 4 that have a shot to win it all.
After next round all the pretenders will be eliminated (and maybe two that could get the semi with different matchups) and the real playoffs start. Attrition becomes very critical from this point on. Georgia losing their QB isn't quite as bad as it could be since they've had a long time to get Stockton ready, anyone else losing their QB, RB #1, best WR or some O-line/D-line could be fricked.
Right now we're on the cusp...our RB#1 (who was going to be #2 or 3 until our real #1 missed the entire season) is banged up along with our 4 year starting center and starting RT. Remains to be seen how bad it is, (I don't expect all of them to be out) but I don't think the other playoff teams got banged up that badly. Oh...and Zona State has had a month to get everyone healthy.
I expect us to win that one, Georgia and Pedo State to advance, Oregon/tOSU is a tossup, I wouldn't put a dime on that game.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:31 pm to Lolathon234
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Ohio state wouldn’t have even been in it
If Texas plays Ohio State they’ll probably get another arse kicking just like the 2 games vs Georgia
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:31 pm to HTX Horn
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But since when are postseason games guaranteed to be close? The average score of a CFP game from the four-team era was 40-21. The average BCS Championship: 33-18. What, are we gonna redesign the NFL playoffs if the NFC South champ looks crappy?
LSU could have put up 100 against OU in 2019 if they wanted, Bama, Clemson, and UGA have both worked several teams in the semi-finals. only idiots are clamoring to return to the 4 team play off.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:32 pm to HTX Horn
Have the 12 team playoff but bring back the original BCS computer system for the rankings and seedings…
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:32 pm to 3down10
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So? They lost to Oregon and Michigan.
But they beat a shitty Tennessee team and suddenly everything changes?
Hell, if this is your only standard, Alabama should have been in.
Ohio State beat 2 playoff teams during the regular season (Indiana and PSU). They lost on the road to Oregon by 1 point and to a 7-5 Michigan by 3 points (not a 6-6 Vandy or 6-6 OU... both of which are WORSE).
No, OSU is actually one of the more deserving teams in the playoff. They played a tough schedule, only lost 2 games rather than 3 and only had one bad loss (rather than 2 like Bama did).
They don't help your argument. They are far superior to Bama in terms of results and schedule strength.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:35 pm to LSURulzSEC
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Have the 12 team playoff but bring back the original BCS computer system for the rankings and seedings…
The only change in the teams who got in with the BCS would be Bama over either SMU or Clemson (depending on if you want conference champs in automatically).
Bama was 11th in the BCS. SMU was 12th. Clemson was 13th.
To be perfectly honest if our argument is about which 2 of the last 3 teams get in, the CFP committee did fine. We're talking about last team in/first team out. None of those teams matter anyway.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:38 pm to 3down10
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If the only measurement is the ability to win the national championship, then yes they are.
I can point to 2 loses after that win that say otherwise.
Let alone the fact that they just blew out the team you lost to
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:38 pm to John Milner
Texas was clearly the better team in the rematch, outcome be damned. Hell, Georgia lost half their team to injury in that game
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:39 pm to HTX Horn
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It may be true that “4 is enough” to determine a champ, and the current system definitely needs to be tweaked.
Agreed, but I’d use the word “overhauled” instead of tweaked. Regardless, why do we care about the Athletic’s opinion?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:39 pm to DawginSC
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Ohio State beat 2 playoff teams during the regular season (Indiana and PSU). They lost on the road to Oregon by 1 point and to a 7-5 Michigan by 3 points (not a 6-6 Vandy or 6-6 OU... both of which are WORSE).
No, OSU is actually one of the more deserving teams in the playoff. They played a tough schedule, only lost 2 games rather than 3 and only had one bad loss (rather than 2 like Bama did).
They don't help your argument. They are far superior to Bama in terms of results and schedule strength.
Good job on completely missing the point. Ohio St's resume doesn't matter.
The claim was that if Ohio St wins it all it means 8 teams are needed. It's ridiculous. Because even a 3 loss team like Alabama is capable of doing that if given the opportunity.
In fact, it was probably the biggest sigh of relief from the rest of college football, especially Georgia, when Alabama didn't get in.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:43 pm to HTX Horn
quote:There used to be a reason why college football was infinitely better than the NFL.
What, are we gonna redesign the NFL playoffs if the NFC South champ looks crappy?
quote:What do you think the 12-game schedule was, clown?
More than that, I like watching football and things being played out on the field.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:45 pm to TexasOnTop
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I can point to 2 loses after that win that say otherwise.
Let alone the fact that they just blew out the team you lost to
If the claim is an 8th seed winning the national championship is proof that there should be 8 teams, then Alabama and Ole Miss should have been included.
Because it's only about their ability to beat good teams, not about their losses. So why are you citing the losses?
If Alabama blows out Michigan, will that be proof that Alabama should have gotten in since Ohio St lost to Michigan? Or can you suddenly see how ridiculous your argument is?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:49 pm to 3down10
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If the claim is an 8th seed winning the national championship is proof that there should be 8 teams, then Alabama and Ole Miss should have been included.
No I’m just claiming the Alabama isn’t comparable to tOSU. Y’all didn’t belong in the playoffs.
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Because it's only about their ability to beat good teams, not about their losses. So why are you citing the losses?
A game in November speaks more about a team than a game in September.
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If Alabama blows out Michigan, will that be proof that Alabama should have gotten in since Ohio St lost to Michigan? Or can you suddenly see how ridiculous your argument is?
Nah bowl games don’t count, too many opt outs.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:51 pm to HTX Horn
It should've been eight, and there shouldn't be automatic qualifiers, either.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:56 pm to TexasOnTop
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No I’m just claiming the Alabama isn’t comparable to tOSU. Y’all didn’t belong in the playoffs.
If the only measure of the playoffs are teams that can win 3 games against ranked teams in a row, then Alabama winning 3 games against ranked teams including the #2 team is proof that they are capable.
If Ohio St loses 2 more games with the same team - doesn't matter, because they are at the end of the year good enough to beat 3 ranked teams in a row. That's all that matters according to the OP.
Or you just admit it's a stupid standard and claim to start with and anyone who reads The Atlantic needs their head examined.
Funny how quickly people start bringing in the season loses for other teams when the shitty standard is applied beyond their target.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:59 pm to 3down10
No I’m just stating that you’re an idiot for still going on and on about Bama being in the playoffs. Don’t lose to terrible teams.
You barely beat a team that spotted you 28 points at home in September, then lost to Vandy and a dumpster fire. Your other loss just got blow out in the first round.
You’re not comparable so give it a rest and enjoy the playoffs.
You barely beat a team that spotted you 28 points at home in September, then lost to Vandy and a dumpster fire. Your other loss just got blow out in the first round.
You’re not comparable so give it a rest and enjoy the playoffs.
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