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re: To put an end to the Chavis debate

Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:39 pm to
Why are y'all so insecure about this? No one outside of Louisiana thinks Kevin Steele is a better defensive coordinator than John Chavis. Just accept the truth.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:39 pm to
It doesnt change the fact that he walked right into it.

I think Steele is gonna suck royaly but that also doesnt change the fact that dude set himself up and didnt even realize it.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18585 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:39 pm to
What debate? Everyone knows you coonasses were jizzing all over your pictures of Chief and laughing at the rumors that he was interested in the A&M job. Then, when he accepted the job, you melted hard until Steele was announced as LSU DC, at which point you melted so hard you nearly went bankrupt. Slowly, you've deluded yourself into believing a newly invented history. There is no debate. This is all well-recorded in a great many anchored tiger dropping threads.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:39 pm to
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I honestly dont care, I just feel like more people needed to see it.


You suck. You should delete your account and quit posting.
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Muschamp and Pelini are elite defensive coordinators though


You realize them having success and winning a championship at LSU gave them that title as elite Coordinators? Pelini's only other DC job was at Oklahoma where they were 55th nationally. Muschamps coaching career included West Georgia, Eastern Kentucky, and Valdosta State before he joined LSU.
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39358 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:40 pm to
How about the non-stop chatter by A&M fans, sports media, etc about Chavis' "attacking style" defense.

Want me to bump that thread for you?
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Chavis could be a better fit with A&M


Because nothing says "better fit" like a massive talent downgrade, incompetent assistants, an unproven head coach who has won fewer and fewer games every year since 2012, and a gimmicky high school offense that "he's excited to work with" even though they weren't even ranked in the top 25 in yardage or scoring last year
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34685 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:42 pm to
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It doesnt change the fact that he walked right into it.



I can respect that.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22755 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Chavis is the only one who hasnt been a head coach??


For Steele that isn't a bragging point.


TBH it is not exactly one for Muschamp or Pelini either.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Want me to bump that thread for you?


Would it be possible to start all the Chavis threads started by LSU fans without crashing the servers? Seriously. It's more than one a day at this point.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34685 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:43 pm to
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How about the non-stop chatter by A&M fans, sports media, etc about Chavis' "attacking style" defense.

Want me to bump that thread for you?


Sure go ahead.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35485 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:44 pm to
Lol

What an idiot
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47511 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:44 pm to
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No one outside of Louisiana thinks Kevin Steele is a better defensive coordinator than John Chavis. Just accept the truth


What does it matter? You've already made it clear the the head coaches are responsible for the defenses success.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:47 pm to
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To put an end to the Chavis debate
Why are y'all so insecure about this? No one outside of Louisiana thinks Kevin Steele is a better defensive coordinator than John Chavis. Just accept the truth.


The simple fact that LSU is sitting on the #1 recruiting class right now leads me to beleive Steele is better as of July 2015 You'd think the "Chavis" name alone would have LBs lined up to play for him huh? You'll learn the hard way
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12183 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:47 pm to
Did this really need it's own thread? I read it when you put it in the other 3 threads.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34685 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:48 pm to
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Because nothing says "better fit" like a massive talent downgrade, incompetent assistants, an unproven head coach who has won fewer and fewer games every year since 2012, and a gimmicky high school offense that "he's excited to work with" even though they weren't even ranked in the top 25 in yardage or scoring last year


You are being sarcastic but you shouldn't be. Chavis is a better fit for a team with younger talent (who needs teaching of fundamentals), especially when the head coach lacks the understanding of defense to provide those fundamentals (or even the right attitudes) himself. Chavis's simple schemes are better for defensive players that have been playing the equivalent of flag football all their lives, as they are basically learning from scratch.

If anything Steele (who so far has been mostly praised for bringing in talent) is maybe a poor fit for LSU (a team I am told again and again ALREADY has superior talent). Seems a better fit for LSU would be an elite coach to make use of the CURRENT talent, as yall already have a ton of it.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39626 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:48 pm to
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Kevin Steele



Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34685 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:49 pm to
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TBH it is not exactly one for Muschamp or Pelini either.



I think Pelini did a great job as a head coach. When Nebraska's program hit a new low in my lifetime in a few years all will agree.
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3414 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:50 pm to
Muschamp has fielded elite defenses every where he's been since LSU and Pelini was co-defensive coordinator at Oklahoma of a defense that was 11th nationally in scoring. Pelini also had good defenses at Nebraska so don't act like LSU made them.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 1:51 pm to
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"Look, both LSU and A&M COULD HAVE upgraded! It is not either/or, as Chavis could be a better fit with A&M and Steele might be a better fit with a current LSU."


I don't think any LSU fans think Steele > Chavis. That would be statistically incorrect.

I think we are just optimistic that our recruiting went from very good to elite pretty much overnight even though without Steele and O even having a year under their belt at LSU.
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