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re: Tiptop25 all time program rankings in his "fixed" polls from 1901-2025

Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

Reading is fundamental - you missed the part that says "of All Time (1901-Present)." All time means the unit of comparison is years, 1 through 125, 1901-2025, 125 total years. Not the 2000s, not 50 years, 125 years.




It depends on how you weight different accomplishments.

Legitimate NCs:

LSU - 4 Doubles UT

UT - 2


UT has a slight advantage in wins, win% and SEC titles. Relatively large advantage in head to head though the programs don't play very often.

LSU has a slight advantage in total weeks ranked, a large advantage in weeks #1


I'd say legit NCs pushes LSU ahead by a nose, but can see the argument either way.
Posted by Mo Debumly
Member since May 2026
346 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Back in 2019 is better than back in 1998.

Do you know what they have in common? They are both in the past.

L8&4U might as well get used to it.

My bad, you have a championship winning coach now...OH...wait...
Posted by Tjtennispro
ATL
Member since Feb 2018
378 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:52 pm to
Auburn has more Natties on anybody but Bama
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
76058 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Do you know what they have in common? They are both in the past.


That's true. One is just MUCH more recent.


Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
30565 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:01 pm to
Umm...

Tenn Nat titles- 6
Texas Natties- 4

Hrm..so you want to replace the program with 6 Natties with the one with 4...hrmmm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
30565 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:02 pm to
Auburn also has the most delusional and saddest fanbase in CFB.
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
2315 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:22 pm to
How is Tennessee a blue blood over Texas in your eyes?
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
2315 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:23 pm to
Tennesse doesn't have 6 natties lol
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
1457 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:31 pm to

Wow, if you go look at this dudes imaginary polls prior to 1936, they are hysterically bad. I mean REAL bad.
Posted by OKinTX21
Member since Sep 2024
722 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:35 pm to
Tennessee doesn’t have 6 national titles.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8762 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Umm...

Tenn Nat titles- 6
Texas Natties- 4

Hrm..so you want to replace the program with 6 Natties with the one with 4...hrmmm


I admittedly did not realize that Tennessee only had 2 consensus national titles and 2 in the poll era. I thought they had a more substantial national title history than that until this thread made me look it up.

Looking at their other claimed ones, 1938 seems legitimate. They didn't play a difficult schedule but only allowed 16 points all year and beat #4 Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl. TCU generally gets the nod that year, but UT's resume that year stacks up pretty well against theirs all things considered.

1940 is real bunk. They only played one team that finished ranked (Boston College in the Sugar Bowl) and lost to them. They never cracked the top five in the AP rankings. They shouldn't count that.

1950 seems like a decent claim. They played well against a tough schedule (10 - 1 including wins against 3 teams in the final top 20 and 2 in the top ten) and the primary claimant Oklahoma's resume stacks up about like Tennessee's.

1951 is an absolute chaos year. There are like five teams that have a somewhat legitimate claim on this year. Maryland probably has the best claim (undefeated and beat Tennessee in the Sugar Bowl by 2 TD's). That is probably a half title at very best.

1967 is a terrible claim. The SEC wasn't very good that year, and while UT went undefeated and beat the only other ranked team in the conference in Alabama, they lost both games to out of conference teams that were any good (UCLA and Oklahoma). USC's (the primary claimant for that year) resume is much, much better than Tennessee's (also beat the only common opponent they had in UCLA, whom UT lost to). That claim is Alabama 1941-worthy.
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 9:45 pm
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
11189 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

in his "fixed" polls


I believe I found the problem with this ranking.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39138 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Alabama
Michigan
Oklahoma
Ohio State
USC
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Tenn


in no era has Tenn ever been a blueblood...ever

they are in the next group right behind that with UGA, LSU, UT, Penn State

texas is the tweener.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27710 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:13 am to
125 years of games. Pretty amazing conference when all 16 teams are in the top 75.

Also SEC now has 8 of the top 18.

B1G doesn’t understand the difference, all of our games are a battle.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39138 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:16 am to
quote:

You dumbasses trying to live on the last 15 years.

This is over the span of 125 years.


stop living on success from before you were born jackass

nobody cares what yall did in pre 1990s

if you want to go that route

LSU could be just like Tenn and claim other titles...hell 1908 is about as legit as there is pre poll era

could claim

1908, 1936, 1962 but we arent douche bags like yall


i know your dumb fricking arse aint calling LSU scrubs. nobody gives a frick what yall did before the civil rights act. You aint shite now and havent been in 25 years and will remain shite.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39138 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Tenn Nat titles- 6



:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

just like a Tenn fan, make shite up
Posted by Mo Debumly
Member since May 2026
346 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

i know your dumb fricking arse aint calling LSU scrubs. nobody gives a frick what yall did before the civil rights act. You aint shite now and havent been in 25 years and will remain shite.

17-19 years run in youir whole history.

You dumb, mudbug eating, shite for brains fool. You are too stupid to understand the concept the OP is based on.

Yes, in the grand scheme of things. LShitU is a scrub team with a scrub fan base.

you and your never won anything wonder boy coach.

21-10-3
40-13

LShitU is a joke.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
4448 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 6:11 pm to
Tennessee has legit titles from 1951 and 1998. The 1951 title was AP and coaches, so it's more than valid. The 1967 claim is a total farce. USC won the AP and coaches.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5934 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

No way is UT ahead of UGA. Counting made up BS championships doesnt compare to the ones UGA has. I dont think UT is in front of LSU but there is an argument there. LSU had passed UGA imo around 2015 but kirby has them back in front and ahead of UT imo.


Tennessee's ahead of Georgia because of the leather helmet era. If you look at the modern era of cfb, from about 1960 and forward, Georgia is signficantly ahead of Tennessee.
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