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re: Thoughts about expanding the playoffs?
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:19 pm to itskirbytime
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:19 pm to itskirbytime
Leave it alone. Expand it to 8 and people will cry for 16. Expand it to 16 and they will cry wanting a participation trophy.
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:19 pm to Bear88
I thought 6 would be a happy medium with 1 and 2 getting a by into the final 4.
If they go to 8, they need to revamp the schedule of when they play. Have the quarter finals be played before Christmas. 2 weeks after the Conference Championship games. That'll give you 2 weeks off. Then play the bowl games for the semi finals.......then take another week and half......two weeks off and play the Championship game.
The logistics of all of this and the extra games is where you will hear a lot of back lash, but I think it will eventually happen. Money is too big for it not to.
If they go to 8, they need to revamp the schedule of when they play. Have the quarter finals be played before Christmas. 2 weeks after the Conference Championship games. That'll give you 2 weeks off. Then play the bowl games for the semi finals.......then take another week and half......two weeks off and play the Championship game.
The logistics of all of this and the extra games is where you will hear a lot of back lash, but I think it will eventually happen. Money is too big for it not to.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:24 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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see no reason why it shouldn't be 8
Conference championships will mean nothing and the regular season will be diluted.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:35 pm to Rabern57
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Auburn (who would have been in over Bama had they not had to play).
My problem is that I've yet to hear a convincing argument that a 2 loss Auburn would have made it without an SECCG win. Not saying it's impossible, but it certainly needs a strong argument to establish this would happen because it's certainly not self-evident from the history of the CFP playoff thus far. There's at least precedence for a non-conference champion getting in, whether you agree with that happening or not. Two losses, however, doesn't have any precedence yet.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:35 pm to Razor Dawg
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Conference championships will mean nothing and the regular season will be diluted.
Agreed you would have to eliminate the CC. It would be meaningless and there are only so many games you can play. 8 not only hurts the CC but also the bowl season. Every bowl outside the PO's would be like the NIT.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:49 pm to itskirbytime
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Stay with 4 teams
Yes.
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or expland to 8
No.
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or 16?
frick no.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:22 pm to Rabern57
I doubt AU fans, LSU fans, or any fan base would have a problem getting a chance to play for the national title the way Bama did. To say otherwise is disingenuous. Bama certainly deserved to be in the playoffs.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:23 pm to itskirbytime
Why not expand to 6 instead of 8?
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:13 pm to itskirbytime
4 is fine. Just big enough to get all the most deserving candidates in, but not too big to ruin the regular season.
The insane over focus on the playoff is already unhealthy for the overall game and a bigger playoff just makes it worse.
If you want college football games to feel as meaningless as college basketball, than feel free to keep expanding it.
Lose 4 games? No problem, can still slide into that #16 spot.
Making the playoffs should be super exciting and it needs to be difficult to do.
Conference championships DO matter in the current system. There have been 16 spots awards and 14 of them have gone to conference champs. The idea you can lose your conference and just get in is clearly incorrect. Not winning your conference puts you on the thinnest of ice and you probably won't make it.
The insane over focus on the playoff is already unhealthy for the overall game and a bigger playoff just makes it worse.
If you want college football games to feel as meaningless as college basketball, than feel free to keep expanding it.
Lose 4 games? No problem, can still slide into that #16 spot.
Making the playoffs should be super exciting and it needs to be difficult to do.
Conference championships DO matter in the current system. There have been 16 spots awards and 14 of them have gone to conference champs. The idea you can lose your conference and just get in is clearly incorrect. Not winning your conference puts you on the thinnest of ice and you probably won't make it.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:17 pm to itskirbytime
Contract to 2.
Or eliminate the committee and go to the BCS formula.
Or, best solution is 4 major conferences/4 conference champions.
In other words, CFB is not structured for a sensible playoff system. It remains a simple money grab.
Or eliminate the committee and go to the BCS formula.
Or, best solution is 4 major conferences/4 conference champions.
In other words, CFB is not structured for a sensible playoff system. It remains a simple money grab.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:21 pm to JesusQuintana
I like 6 teams...Seeds 1 and 2 get byes. 3 thru 6 play the Saturday after conference champ games at higher seed stadiums.
Army vs Navy can be the lead in game.
Then play as usual.
Army vs Navy can be the lead in game.
Then play as usual.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:27 pm to JesusQuintana
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In other words, CFB is not structured for a sensible playoff system.
This is what people who compare it to the NFL don't realize.
The NFL has complete control over the # of divisions, the divisional alignment, the scheduling, etc.
College ball everybody is mostly independent. The schools are all free to do what they want, they can schedule who they want and join whatever conferences they want. The conferences are free to add/remove schools and make their own rules too.
Given the landscape of college football the current system works incredibly well.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:30 pm to GreyReb
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I like 6 teams...Seeds 1 and 2 get byes. 3 thru 6 play the Saturday after conference champ games at higher seed stadiums.
That would suck. With this, 2 of the top 6 teams in the country will have their sesasons ended by December 10. Meanwhile, 6-6 shite teams will get to practice and have something to look forward to all the way up to the Peach Bowl, Capital One Bowl, etc. played 3 weeks later around Jan. 1. If you went to an extra round of playoffs, the earliest the first round should be played is the week around Christmas. I'd be more in favor of pushing it out a week. Thus, your opening rounds would be Jan. 1, semis Jan. 8 or so, championship Jan. 15 or so.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:01 pm to GreyReb
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3 thru 6 play the Saturday after conference champ games at higher seed stadiums.
Ever been to college?
You do realize this would have teams practicing during exam week, right?
As long as university presidents try to maintain the perception that these guys are college students, this will never, ever, ever happen.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:23 pm to BamaGradinTn
6 is a great number. It prevents dilution and is structurally sound provided the power 5 champions get an invite, leaving a single at large team.
# 1 and 2 seeds get a bye in this format and the five bowl games could be rotated for the sake of fairness.
# 1 and 2 seeds get a bye in this format and the five bowl games could be rotated for the sake of fairness.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:25 pm to itskirbytime
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Thoughts about expanding the playoffs?
Playoffs are retarded. Bring back the BCSNCG and get rid of the playoffs.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:30 pm to Razor Dawg
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Conference championships will mean nothing and the regular season will be diluted.
Why?
If they expand to eight teams as follows:
All 5 P5 Champs get auto-bid plus three wildcards.
One of the wildcards will go to the highest G5 team if they satisfy one of these two requirements:
1). They are ranked in the top 12 or
2). They are ranked higher than one of the P5 champs.
In that scenario, the conference championship games will mean much more because they will ALL be play-in games.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:51 pm to Bham Bammer
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I think if you go to an 8-team playoff you've got to cut a game somewhere. A 15-game season is already too long IMO.
This. We shouldn't be playing a schedule similar to the NFL.
We've already added two games to the schedule: Conference Champs (usually, haters) and the first round of the playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:10 pm to Rabern57
Stop the conference champs shite. U want a 7-5 Wiscy team in there? If we took conference champs and Bama went 7-5 but got in by winning the conference the FIRST, FIRST thing out of people's mouths would be we didn't deserve it. And don't try to bullshite and act like u wouldn't.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:21 pm to Rabern57
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they stay at 4 they need to have strict guidelines for who can get in. Like winning your conference.
Bama just proved why this is bullshite. It's about the four best teams. If you want all conf champ teams in then expand if not it needs to be four best teams period.
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