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re: This is what LSU is up against in Knoxville.

Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Chuck Barris
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:16 am to
It's pretty ironic to ask that a college honor the memory of Charlie Kirk by pre-emptively blocking the expression of controversial opinions on the grounds that some people find them offensive.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:17 am to
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Emperor Sankey must kick them out.


Clearly LoIC!
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:18 am to
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It's pretty ironic to ask that a college honor the memory of Charlie Kirk by pre-emptively blocking the expression of controversial opinions on the grounds that some people find them offensive.


So glad that LSU could finally bring Alabama and Tennessee together... in hatred of Charlie Kirk. Wild times
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3432 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:18 am to
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LSU is that one juror who insisted she was guilty. And LSU is spending a whole week being berated by hyperemotional, hysterical people making outlandish accusations, threats and demands despite not actually doing anything wrong.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
21182 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:19 am to
wow! and support of Lindsey Clancy
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
11947 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:22 am to
The University of Tennessee has fallen. Fat liberal white women ruin everything they touch.

Posted by Capn_Bevo
Austin
Member since Jan 2019
1556 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:37 am to
Why are leftists so consumed with hatred of Charlie Kirk? How dare someone debate ideas in an open forum!
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
21182 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:46 am to
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Wrong board! RA’d



Tennessee sympathizer
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21724 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:00 am to
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What a hideous count and a trash state.


TN is a great Southern state; not hideous at all. Well, parts of Shelby Co.

But the good people of Tennessee could use a visit from Gov. Landry. Maybe Tate could use a secretary now?
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14943 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:05 am to
100% chance the person/persons who printed and distributed these can't change a flat.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15311 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:05 am to
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LSU is that one juror who insisted she was guilty. And LSU is spending a whole week being berated by hyperemotional, hysterical people making outlandish accusations, threats and demands despite not actually doing anything wrong.


Dude nailed it. Bunch of liberal pussies all
Up in their feels that got embarrassed by facts….
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 11:06 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:13 am to
This is the same University of Tennessee that fired a professor who celebrated the killing of Kirk.

The University President said, “Your words celebrated a gruesome murder, which horrifically took place on a college campus similar to our own, and then went on to callously demean the grief and loss felt by the widow and young children of the victim while also mocking any grief felt by others who sympathized with the surviving family,” and fired the professor. The school had to settle out of court after the professor sued them.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3432 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:34 am to
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This is the same University of Tennessee that fired a professor who celebrated the killing of Kirk.

Kirk would have (correctly) opposed that professor's dismissal.

Using the anniversary of Kirk's death to support restrictions on expression on college campuses shows that you don't even understand what many people considered admirable about him.

You have missed the entire point of someone you apparently care a lot about, and that's honestly kind of sad.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:50 am to
reported.

Keep this stupid shlt on the politics board.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:52 am to
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This is the same University of Tennessee that fired a professor who celebrated the killing of Kirk.




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Kirk would have (correctly) opposed that professor's dismissal.

Using the anniversary of Kirk's death to support restrictions on expression on college campuses shows that you don't even understand what many people considered admirable about him.

You have missed the entire point of someone you apparently care a lot about, and that's honestly kind of sad.



Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. It wasn't that she said those things...it was that she is a representative of The University of Tennessee. She was free to post those things...but The University also has clauses in their contract regarding rules of conduct. If you violate those, then you are in breech of contract. This was not a tenured professor, and she violated the stipulations set forth in her contract of employment.

Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3432 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 12:16 pm to
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She was free to post those things...but The University also has clauses in their contract regarding rules of conduct. If you violate those, then you are in breech of contract. This was not a tenured professor, and she violated the stipulations set forth in her contract of employment.

UT's decision to pay her a $1.9 million settlement would seem to indicate that they believe a court would probably find their dismissal of her was illegal, either because she didn't actually violate policies or because the ones she did violate were unconstitutional.

Either way, fans of Kirk can hold one, but not both, of the following opinions:

1. Kirk was a great guy for showing that colleges inappropriately censor the expression of unpopular opinions.

2. I support colleges censoring the expression of unpopular opinions about Kirk.

You gotta pick one.
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 1:18 pm
Posted by IM_4_LSU
McKinney, TX
Member since Mar 2014
14690 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 12:34 pm to
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Kirk was a great guy for showing that colleges inappropriately censor the expression of unpopular opinions. 2. I support colleges censoring the expression of unpopular opinions about Kirk.


You’re missing the boat. Everyone wants to hide behind freedom of speech. There are consequences, express yourself. If you want to celebrate someone’s death, then by all means do so at your own discretion. Because each company, business, and school of certain rules which must be upheld while being enrolled or employed. If you violate those rules then regardless of your freedom there are consequences.

I’m not saying this is necessarily violating a Tennessee rule but I can tell you that it violates a rule at other universities and companies.

LSU used to have free speech ally which was the only area you could freely engage in that type of behavior. If you did it anywhere on campus you were in violation of schools rules and had a punishment.

Celebrating someone’s death especially a public figure is highly insensitive regardless of which side of the aisle you fall on. If we cannot agree on that simple fact then humanity is truly doomed. Especially when the death was by assassination.
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
1416 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 12:37 pm to
I doubt if the university is sanctioning this. You got crazy people on all university campuses these days. Matter fact, Charlie Kirk came to Knoxville and they were more people there supporting them than against him.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3432 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 1:33 pm to
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Celebrating someone’s death especially a public figure is highly insensitive regardless of which side of the aisle you fall on. If we cannot agree on that simple fact then humanity is truly doomed. Especially when the death was by assassination.
I don't disagree with anything you've written here.

My point is that Kirk opposed the censorship of unpopular and arguably insensitive ideas on college campuses. He argued that part of the function of a university is to be a marketplace of ideas, even if those ideas might offend others. The censorship of speech that falls short of the legal standard of being "intended to incite and likely to produce imminent lawless action" by a public university has a chilling effect on freedom of speech and is counterproductive to its function.

Therefore, Kirk's admirers must adopt one of two contradictory positions:

A. Kirk was correct. Censorship of unpopular and potentially offensive speech by universities is a threat to freedom of expression and should be opposed.

B. Kirk was wrong. Colleges should step in to censorship speech that may not be illegal, but is unpopular and offensive (to me).
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
18200 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 1:48 pm to
Because they are inherently violent and incapable of impartiality.
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