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Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:08 am to djsdawg
No offense as Georgia was terrific this season, but I’m taking 11/14 of those teams over Georgia because most of those teams would absolutely break Stetson Bennett. Also, I have already watched Jordan Davis run across the field and chase Burrow for 3 hours, it does not work.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:08 am to djsdawg
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That 2007 LSU team was easily the worst of the bunch, or was it 2010 AU?
Yea the one that went undefeated against the most difficult conference division ever, that's the one.
Go through a season without getting blown out and get back to us.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 7:08 am to djsdawg
15-0...... Pick on that bone
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:15 pm to Choot em Tiger
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Also, I have already watched Jordan Davis run across the field and chase Burrow for 3 hours, it does not work.
2021 uga was a very different animal than 2019 uga was.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 3:24 pm to Choot em Tiger
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Also, I have already watched Jordan Davis run across the field and chase Burrow for 3 hours, it does not work.
Jordan Davis shut down the running backs for 3 quarters. But I agree. He (nor the DT or DE or LBs) were able to hem in Burrow. We had a very good linebacking group in 2019 (significantly better than 2018), but they were no where near elite.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 4:56 pm to djsdawg
Very cool stats, djsdawg!
Now, taking those categories of stats and giving each NC a numerical point relative to the other champions based on those categories, we come up with this:
There are 15 champions...15 points for 1st, 14 points for 2nd, etc., down to 1 point for 15th.
1. 2021/UGA - 42 points
2. 2013/FSU - 41
3. 2018/Clemson - 35
4. 2008/Florida - 34
5. 2020/Alabama - 32
6. 2019/LSU - 31
7. 2011/Alabama - 30
8. 2012/Alabama - 26
9. 2009/Alabama - 21
10. 2017/Alabama - 20
11. 2014/Ohio State - 17
12. 2015/Alabama - 11
13. 2016/Clemson - 10
14. 2010/Auburn - 6
15. 2007/LSU - 4
Now, taking those categories of stats and giving each NC a numerical point relative to the other champions based on those categories, we come up with this:
There are 15 champions...15 points for 1st, 14 points for 2nd, etc., down to 1 point for 15th.
1. 2021/UGA - 42 points
2. 2013/FSU - 41
3. 2018/Clemson - 35
4. 2008/Florida - 34
5. 2020/Alabama - 32
6. 2019/LSU - 31
7. 2011/Alabama - 30
8. 2012/Alabama - 26
9. 2009/Alabama - 21
10. 2017/Alabama - 20
11. 2014/Ohio State - 17
12. 2015/Alabama - 11
13. 2016/Clemson - 10
14. 2010/Auburn - 6
15. 2007/LSU - 4
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 4:58 pm to Island_Tiger73
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15-0...... Pick on that bone
The stats picked that bone clean. See how all 15 champions ranked in comparison to each other.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 5:13 pm to djsdawg
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That 2007 LSU team was easily the worst of the bunch, or was it 2010 AU?
You have a good eye, djsdawg...check my composite rankings of all 15 champions based on those stats. Those two teams are at the bottom.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:21 am to djsdawg
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2021 uga was a very different animal than 2019 uga was.
That is the case. However, I just don’t see a team with Bennett as QB possibly being able to keep up with that LSU offense.
Georgia was great but you can’t say they were better than 5 undefeated teams. Maybe if the loss they was close but the one loss was a blowout (I know it was not indicative on how good Georgia really was but still).
If you want a good comp, Georgia was very similar to 2011 LSU but better on defense. Defense shut a lot of teams down. Offense wasn’t elite but efficient, and they beat everyone’s arse. One bad loss to Bama and one win, except Georgia won the important one.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 7:26 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:33 am to Choot em Tiger
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just don’t see a team with Bennett as QB possibly being able to keep up with that LSU offense.
It is difficult for any offense/QB to keep up with that LSU offense. No?
For perspective.
Bennett averaged 153 yards passing and 1.4 TDs in the first half of his starts in 2021.
When the UGA offense was in full operation, there was no deficiency with Stetson Bennett.
When Stetson was needed for 4 quarters, he averaged 292 yards per game (8.4 ypa), had 8 TDs to 2 INTs (SECCG, Orange Bowl, and NCG). The Heisman winner was 323 yards per game (7.5 ypa) with 7 TDs and 3 INTs during that same post season.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:36 am to meansonny
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It is difficult for any offense/QB to keep up with that LSU offense. No?
Yes. Stetson did a good job. Burrow averaged 435 YPG and had 16 Tds and 0 ints through the Sec champ and Playoff. My point was Georgia had a great team but the OPs silly rankings are flawed because they could not have kept up with some of the teams on the list due to a more methodical, slow paced offense. I’d put 2021 UGA lower end of the top tier and mid pack in that list.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:51 am to djsdawg
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The stats appear to be accounting for such things.
It seems like they're TRYING to, possibly, but 2020 Alabama and 2019 LSU played schedules significantly more difficult than 2021 UGA. That's not a knock on UGA, but 2020 Alabama didn't play any G5/FCS opponents and 2019 LSU played a gaggle of ranked teams. It's hard to imagine two undefeated teams, that won nearly every game by double digits against very strong schedules, was somehow "worse" than a team that lost in their conference title game and played only 3 teams that finished ranked during the regular season along with UAB and Charleston Southern?
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:54 am to JetDawg
Read whatever stats make you feel better, even ones that an Ivy league grad had to make. The stat is 15-0 & beat 7 top ten teams & yes, some might have been overrated, especially that weak arse team LSU beat in the SECCG
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:19 am to djsdawg
Any of those teams with an elite passing game would’ve given 2021 UGA fits because they couldn’t defend in space.
There is no way they could’ve handled 2019 LSU or 2020 Bama and 2018 Clemson would’ve been tough because that DL would’ve stuffed your run game and their size would’ve made it tough for Bennett to find passing lanes.
There is no way they could’ve handled 2019 LSU or 2020 Bama and 2018 Clemson would’ve been tough because that DL would’ve stuffed your run game and their size would’ve made it tough for Bennett to find passing lanes.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 11:21 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:29 am to skrayper
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Alabama didn't play any G5/FCS opponents
You overestimate the strength of the SEC.
Half of the teams in the conference are below average.
Playing the bottom half of a conference does not equate to playing a tough or even tougher schedule when those 6 teams have no shot at beating a true NCG contender. There isn't a difference between a G5 and Vandy.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 2:55 pm to tide06
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There is no way they could’ve handled 2019 LSU or 2020 Bama and 2018 Clemson would’ve been tough because that DL would’ve stuffed your run game and their size would’ve made it tough for Bennett to find passing lanes
Yes way. Uga 2021 was good enough to beat all 3 of these teams.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 2:57 pm to skrayper
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2020 Alabama didn't play any G5/FCS opponents
I don’t think the stats are counting FCS games, and you are conveniently ignoring what Covid did to many of the rosters bama faced.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 2:58 pm to djsdawg
A lot of Bama in that list.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:01 pm to Choot em Tiger
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OPs silly rankings are flawed
These are advanced stats from respected statisticians that have no bias, and thus limited flaws.
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because they could not have kept up with some of the teams on the list due to a more methodical, slow paced offense.
This is an example of no stat bias creating flaws.
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