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re: This has to be the single worst bubble in the history of college basketball
Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
This is why I laugh at everyone saying UF is out after last night.
Nothing against Bama, but if Bama is a part of the last 4 In, I’d say UF is still firmly in at this point.
Nothing against Bama, but if Bama is a part of the last 4 In, I’d say UF is still firmly in at this point.
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:00 am to coachcrisp
Ive never agreed with Summer of George more than the OP. Put in the small school teams this year.
These bubble teams are absolute crap. Temple? frick off
Florida, Bama - frick off
Ohio state - frick off
Pac-10 - just frick yourself
These bubble teams are absolute crap. Temple? frick off
Florida, Bama - frick off
Ohio state - frick off
Pac-10 - just frick yourself
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:02 am to boXerrumble
quote:...and this is why I say that there's too many teams in the tournament.
This is why I laugh at everyone saying UF is out after last night.
Nothing against Bama, but if Bama is a part of the last 4 In, I’d say UF is still firmly in at this poin
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:04 am to boXerrumble
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Nothing against Bama, but if Bama is a part of the last 4 In, I’d say UF is still firmly in at this point.
I mean I probably agree, but both have similar bad resumes and shouldn't be anywhere near the tournament
Alabama
NET : 55
vs Q1 : 2-8
vs Q2 : 7-3
vs Q3 : 5-2
vs Q4 : 3-0
vs Q1/2 : 9-11
vs Q3/4 : 8-2
Florida
NET : 34
vs Q1 : 3-10
vs Q2 : 4-1
vs Q3 : 5-2
vs Q4 : 5-0
vs Q1/2 : 7-11
vs Q3/4 : 10-2
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:05 am to coachcrisp
There aren't too many teams in the tournament.
68 out 350 odd teams is not too much. The problem is who they are evaluating as good teams.
Since the pac-12 is historically bad you are throwing out like 20% of power five conference teams already, which is leaving a bunch of garabge teams that all they do is lose.
Texas? 16-14 give me a break. they aren't even sweating a bid
68 out 350 odd teams is not too much. The problem is who they are evaluating as good teams.
Since the pac-12 is historically bad you are throwing out like 20% of power five conference teams already, which is leaving a bunch of garabge teams that all they do is lose.
Texas? 16-14 give me a break. they aren't even sweating a bid
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:06 am to MeatPants
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Ive never agreed with Summer of George more than the OP. Put in the small school teams this year.
But I mean, the small teams suck too.
Murray State? Lost to Alabama, is 1-4 vs Q1/Q2 teams and 19-0 vs Q4 teams.
Liberty? Lost to Alabama
I mean, whatever, they can go I guess, but most of them haven't done anything near proving to be deserving either. Beating a bunch of 200+ RPI teams from the OVC or Big South means absolutely nothing. The SEC record vs 200+ RPI teams is something around the lines of 50-3.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 10:09 am
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:13 am to SummerOfGeorge
Didn't they play alabama in Tuscaloosa though.
Switch that around and I bet bama doesn't beat them.
For the first time ever, I really think a lot of these really small one bid league like teams are as good as these bubble teams.
frick it. put them in. don't reward texas for a .500 season. That seems ridiculous
Switch that around and I bet bama doesn't beat them.
For the first time ever, I really think a lot of these really small one bid league like teams are as good as these bubble teams.
frick it. put them in. don't reward texas for a .500 season. That seems ridiculous
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:15 am to MeatPants
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Didn't they play alabama in Tuscaloosa though.
Switch that around and I bet bama doesn't beat them.
So, at best, they are equal to Alabama. Again, I'm fine giving those teams the benefit of the doubt when comparing them to garbage P5 teams like us, but they aren't in any way getting screwed if they don't go.
If Alabama played Murray State's schedule we'd be 23-5 or something, too. And we're garbage.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:18 am to SummerOfGeorge
The really hot take this past week has been loving the mid-majors because of the weak bubble. Some people are missing that the mid-majors are part of the reason the bubble is so weak.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:26 am to MeatPants
quote:There are too many teams in the tournament. Follow the history of the tournament and you'll see how money dictated the direction the tourney took. So you're saying that nearly 20% of all teams (68 out of 350) are capable of winning the national championship?..and if not, why the frick, are they even there?...man, please!
There aren't too many teams in the tournament.
68 out 350 odd teams is not too much. The problem is who they are evaluating as good teams.
Since the pac-12 is historically bad you are throwing out like 20% of power five conference teams already, which is leaving a bunch of garabge teams that all they do is lose.
Texas? 16-14 give me a break. they aren't even sweating a bid
Make the NIT interesting. Use the format that the NIT is using now, and bring the final 8 to Madison Square Garden for a Thurs-Sun tournament.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:29 am to coachcrisp
The NCAA tournament is the biggest sporting event in the country other than the super bowl.
Its fine how it is. Why would you want to make the NIT better.
you must love Poulon Weedeater bowl.
The whole reason the tournament is as big as it is, is because it has 64 teams. Just don't expand it. That would be a major major mistake
Its fine how it is. Why would you want to make the NIT better.
you must love Poulon Weedeater bowl.
The whole reason the tournament is as big as it is, is because it has 64 teams. Just don't expand it. That would be a major major mistake
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:59 am to MeatPants
quote:A) That it is!...and after only 1 round what do you have?...a 32 team tournament.
A) The NCAA tournament is the biggest sporting event in the country other than the super bowl.
B) Its fine how it is. Why would you want to make the NIT better.
B) If the NIT took the 32 teams (plus a few more) that didn't make "the dance" and paired them against each other, possibly using school rivalries and/or past relationships in other sports for pairings, you'd have more fan interest and probably more competitive games. Finally, a trip to the Final Eight tourney in Madison Square Garden in NYC would be an enticement for both players and fans.
Let's face it, the NCAA tourney is a waste of time for the large majority of teams that are in it. Hook them up with a rival/rivals in other sports from another conference or region of the country and get a competitive game from more evenly matched opponents.
PS- How many 16 seeds have beaten #1 seeds in the 1st round?
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:01 am to RebelExpress38
This is all about the strength of the conference. He won 19 or 20 when the conference sucked. And btw, I liked Kennedy... nonetheless.
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Somewhere Andy kennedy is watching a 19 win ole miss team who has lost 3 straight games but still being a lock in the tournament and just laughing/crying at the same time.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:05 am to coachcrisp
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A) That it is!...and after only 1 round what do you have?...a 32 team tournament.
One of the most exciting parts is the 1st round. 4 games going on at once throughout the whole day.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:09 am to footballtimeintn
quote:That's what mainly is right there. PAC 12 being down...hell even Kansas is down and won't win their conference.
You can thank the PAC 12 mostly
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:14 am to rockiee
quote:..and out of all that, you got maybe 8-10 games that are actually competitive.
One of the most exciting parts is the 1st round. 4 games going on at once throughout the whole day.
Most folks around here don't remember when the NIT was a prestigious tournament and would still be if the NCAA hadn't kept expanding its field. I went to NYC for Alabama's first appearance. North Carolina, Notre Dame and Virginia Tech were there,too. We lost to North Carolina w/ George Karl and Mitch Kupchick(?).
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:14 am to SummerOfGeorge
I agree overall with everything you said. The tournament is too big, just like there are wayyy too many bowl games. But they will never go back from 64. Just too much money and every so often there is a Loyola of Chicago team that "defines" March Madness. And then last year there was Maryland Baltimore County. Contraction will never happen; I'd happily settle for getting rid of this idiotic First Four nonsense (though I doubt there is any real chance that will happen either).
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 11:15 am
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:14 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:So you're saying the thing that makes the whole sport go should be lessened?
holy shite this tournament needs to contract.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:18 am to coachcrisp
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..and out of all that, you got maybe 8-10 games that are actually competitive
Not every game has to be competitive to make the round amazing. We got games like UMBC vs Virginia in which Virginia lost by 20. That was a blowout and one of the best stories of the 1st round.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:20 am to SummerOfGeorge
Who knows with this Arkansas team. They can beat LSU at their place, almost beat UK(should've won though), beat Ole Miss, but can't beat WKU and GT at home.
Who knows what will happen this weekend.
Who knows what will happen this weekend.
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