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re: This could be a game changer for coaches if it happens (Restore College Football Act)
Posted on 5/4/25 at 9:16 pm to flagshipuniversity
Posted on 5/4/25 at 9:16 pm to flagshipuniversity
Brain brilliance like this tells you we are long way from “fixing” anything.
This conundrum is actually amusing because once again - it points out the folly of man.
Your main players are the Schools, ESPN/FOX, and the US Government. It’s fricked all to hell and there ain’t no going back.
Oh but wait, I failed to mention the fourth party involved - the customer (the fans). They are the ONLY player at the table that can exact change.
But American fortitude is dead. We are good at shelling out our money and being led around like lazy dogs (by the media)… so I wouldn’t count on anything revolutionary.
This conundrum is actually amusing because once again - it points out the folly of man.
Your main players are the Schools, ESPN/FOX, and the US Government. It’s fricked all to hell and there ain’t no going back.
Oh but wait, I failed to mention the fourth party involved - the customer (the fans). They are the ONLY player at the table that can exact change.
But American fortitude is dead. We are good at shelling out our money and being led around like lazy dogs (by the media)… so I wouldn’t count on anything revolutionary.
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 9:20 pm
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 9:45 pm to Dallaswho
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Why on earth would it be pegged to the cost of attendance? It’d make just as much sense to peg it to the price of a Big Mac.
Probably because, at the end of the day, these are public institutions of higher learning that are funded by state and federal grants/loans. We tend to forget this every now and then but we're not dealing with NFL franchises here.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 10:38 pm to da foozball
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It’s ridiculously simply. Quit paying athletes money. Give them a scholarship for a free education which includes room/board, books, clothing, tutoring, health care, nutrition etc. This could work to entice kids when non athletes are paying thousands of $ per semester and aren’t afforded everything the athlete is. We could be onto something
Sounds like Communist Russia.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 11:34 pm to Dallaswho
Harvard and Yale are going to become behemoths!
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:14 am to flagshipuniversity
Limiting a coaches salary wouldn’t pass muster in the courts. Just like limiting what the players can make. If you’re referring to what the university will pay them than that’s fine. Most universities have something like this. However, you CAN’T stop boosters from paying big bucks for good coaches. It’s the same with limiting athletes. Your argument is invalid an holds no water. The bastion that is Army is a socialist as it gets pay wise. ALL higher ranks make more than lower ranks, whether that be inlisted soldiers or NCO’s. I don’t care who you are or how well you do on a PT test or marksmenship you WILL NOT make more than someone ranked above you. That should be the same with CFB. Why are you trying to rebalance power? Any league or organization where the lowest rank is in charge and has the power will and has always failed. The NBA is hanging on because of China. Its ratings in the US have tanked. You really have no clue how a business works do you? The lowest rank and paid employees will always vote for their own self interests even to the detriment of the organization that provides these benefits.
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 1:16 am
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:03 am to Freight Joker
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Point is, nobody is tuning in for the players.
Wrong
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:08 am to RollTide1987
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You mean regulating interstate commerce between state and federally-funded institutions? I think that is part of its job description.
3rdand10 has and will forever present the most idiotic statements when it comes to NIL.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:19 am to flagshipuniversity
DEI comes to college coaching. Studies have shown that economically rewarding winning and recruiting only makes the other kids sad.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:03 am to flagshipuniversity
Perfect example of small government conservatism in the United States.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:08 am to da foozball
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It’s ridiculously simply. Quit paying athletes money. Give them a scholarship for a free education which includes room/board, books, clothing, tutoring, health care, nutrition etc. This could work to entice kids when non athletes are paying thousands of $ per semester and aren’t afforded everything the athlete is. We could be onto something
Any university in existence today is free to do exactly this. None, or few, will, because it would mean they would not be competitive at the highest levels.
At some point most universities are going to adapt some form of athletics that looks more like it did in the 1960s for example. Athletic revenue is nice but is a paltry sum compared to research money and other sources of revenue at most universities. Most of the SEC and BIG10 will stay the course but it is difficult to imagine places like Vandy, for example, continuing to field teams at the level they do now....they aren't competitive in football at all....there are probably 40-60 programs which will continue to compete at the current level...there is only about 20 or so every year doing it now the rest are not really competitive against the top teams.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:10 am to flagshipuniversity
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college sports have been dominated by billion-dollar TV deals, million-dollar coaches, and student-athletes fighting for scraps.
even if "fighting for scraps" wasn't laughably inaccurate, who cares? I'm constantly perplexed by the arguemtn that how much a university profits or how much it pays the HC has one single iota to do with the players. Why aren't people up in arms that the CEO of Google makes so much more than the janitor that cleans the bathrooms? And before you say "well thep layers are the product!"...false. That MAY be true in the pros, but not college. Every one of us on this board has been a fan of our teams our whole lives (ok, most of us) regardless of what palyers were there. Good seasons and bad, ups and downs. I'm a fan of UGA football and it doesn't matter one bit whatsoever what players actaully play there. I'm a fan of the University's football team.
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a salary cap that would limit coaches’ pay to no more than 10 times the cost of attendance at their respective universities.
damn this is stupid.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:58 am to MtVernon
So pimple head athletes deserve non-capped NIL potential but coaches dont deserve capitalism.
The bill is a lie
The bill is a lie
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Restore College Football
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:21 am to flagshipuniversity
You would be surprised that state schools have caps that state employees can make.
For instance, Josh Heupel base salary is $275K a year. The rest of his $9 million salary comes from “supplemental pay”
But let’s use the best coach of all time as example, Nick Saban.
$305K base state salary, and rest of it came in bonuses, supplemental pay.
Also I don’t think this bill will pass due to the fact I don’t see how you can tell someone they can only make a certain amount of money. How would you like it if someone come to you and said you was only allowed to make a max amount but it was less than what your skills where worth?
For instance, Josh Heupel base salary is $275K a year. The rest of his $9 million salary comes from “supplemental pay”
But let’s use the best coach of all time as example, Nick Saban.
$305K base state salary, and rest of it came in bonuses, supplemental pay.
Also I don’t think this bill will pass due to the fact I don’t see how you can tell someone they can only make a certain amount of money. How would you like it if someone come to you and said you was only allowed to make a max amount but it was less than what your skills where worth?
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:27 am to BigDickRick16
This bill is just another example of lawmakers playing with crayons
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:36 am to BigDickRick16
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You would be surprised that state schools have caps that state employees can make.
For instance, Josh Heupel base salary is $275K a year. The rest of his $9 million salary comes from “supplemental pay”
But let’s use the best coach of all time as example, Nick Saban.
$305K base state salary, and rest of it came in bonuses, supplemental pay.
It has been that way forever...
For some reason Ohio State fans are the worst on this. They are always blathering about how Woody Hayes highest salary at Ohio State was only 43K... the year he was fired (1978)... as if that is some badge of honor.
In reality... Woody Hayes starting salary was 12.5K in 1951... But his total Compensation in 1951 was 113K.
I imagine in 1978 that Woody was actually pilling in about half a mill.
All coaches salaries were set up that way... but for some reason Ohio State fans think Woody's wasn't.
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:01 am to Sweet Pickles
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You just get around it by having the rest of the money come from the foundations.
Shoe companies too.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:09 am to flagshipuniversity
Wishful thinking.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 9:44 am to WG_Dawg
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I'm a fan of UGA football and it doesn't matter one bit whatsoever what players actaully play there.
Then people who believe this need to quit bitching about the transfer portal. UGA and everyone else will field a team of players one way or another. Let the players do what’s best for themselves.
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