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re: There is no logical reason for Georgia to be ahead of Texas in the polls
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:19 am to MackDaddyBrown
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:19 am to MackDaddyBrown
Talent and developed depth. Thats why. Texas is not as deep and not as talented as Georgia. It is only a slight difference but it exists. UGA will be favored in every regular season game they play this season...including the game in Austin. Pre-season polls are meaningless to start with, they are only based on extremely subjective data. As a UGA fan I wish UGA was ranked about #10 right now.
UGA would have been favored against anyone in the country last season AFTER losing to Alabama in the SECCG, including a rematch against Alabama. Again, point spreads are initially established based on data that has proven over the years to be pretty damned accurate....and then adjusted some over time to reflect where the money is going. They do not keep the AC on in those glass towers in the desert by pulling numbers out of their arse. They are remarkably accurate over time.
Texas is in the mix. UGA is in the mix. They will settle a sizeable chunk of the puzzle in October. UGA could have 2 or more losses by then. Highly unlikely, although one loss is not unlikely. If they do lose to Alabama they will most likely not be ranked #1 when they travel to Austin. It makes no difference right now, other than Texas coaching can use it as motivation....
UGA would have been favored against anyone in the country last season AFTER losing to Alabama in the SECCG, including a rematch against Alabama. Again, point spreads are initially established based on data that has proven over the years to be pretty damned accurate....and then adjusted some over time to reflect where the money is going. They do not keep the AC on in those glass towers in the desert by pulling numbers out of their arse. They are remarkably accurate over time.
Texas is in the mix. UGA is in the mix. They will settle a sizeable chunk of the puzzle in October. UGA could have 2 or more losses by then. Highly unlikely, although one loss is not unlikely. If they do lose to Alabama they will most likely not be ranked #1 when they travel to Austin. It makes no difference right now, other than Texas coaching can use it as motivation....
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:38 am to MackDaddyBrown
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Texas was objectively better than Georgia last year. We beat Bama. Made the playoff. Finished higher in the rankings.
Except you didn't finish ahead of UGA in the rankings. In one poll Texas was 3rd and UGA was 4th. In the other UGA was 3rd and Texas was 4th.
It's an OPINION that Texas was better than UGA.
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We both return our QBs and the same number of players on offense and defense. We had a higher ranked portal class meaning more instant impact players.
The larger the number of portal players, the less beneficial they are. The reality is that if you have to integrate huge number of guys, the bigger an issue it can be. The best case for a team is to have talented and experienced backups who have been in your system that can step in rather than having to rely on a transfer. Transfers are for patching a miss in recruiting. They're not the goal.
The only hole UGA had was at WR, which is where their transfers were focused. Those guys are not starters, but rather depth pieces. They didn't have a wide range of holes to fill. Texas going deeper into the portal is not the best thing. It's better than having the needs but not meeting them, but it's not as good as not having the needs.
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So why are they ranked higher? Make it make sense.
UGA was ranked at the same level as Texas at the end of last season (3rd/4th). UGA only has one transfer in their starting lineups (Ettienne at RB) where as Texas has seven transfers that they'll be trying to move into the starting lineup. Texas is also dealing with playing against a load of new teams as they move to a new conference. UGA isn't dealing with that kind of switch.
Texas could be better than UGA. But those are the reasons UGA is ahead of Texas going into the season.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:40 am to MackDaddyBrown
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Texas was objectively better than Georgia last year.
I don' think you know what this word means.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:46 am to MackDaddyBrown
Texas had ONE hard game last year they spent the entire offseason preparing for. Had a weak schedule. They didn't honestly deserve a playoff spot, but they are "Texas". Lost to DeBoer - again ...
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:49 am to MackDaddyBrown
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Texas was objectively better than Georgia last year.
I don't think you know what "objectively" means
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:49 am to ColoradoAg
quote:Texas had a tougher schedule than all abut 2 SEC teams and all but 4 or 5 teams in the entire country
Texas had ONE hard game last year they spent the entire offseason preparing for. Had a weak schedule
They went 4-2 against teams that finished in the top 25
quote:So did Dan Lanning and Oregon. So are they a bad coach/program?
Lost to DeBoer - again ...
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:59 am to SCDawg95
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Georgia has won 2 national championships in the last Decade
As always, has nothing to do with this year.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:10 am to TheDeathValley
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Georgia has won 2 national championships in the last Decade
As always, has nothing to do with this year.
Well, since UGA's last championship was in 2022, it has a little to do with this year. Some of the players on that team are still on the team for this upcoming season.
Two starters on the OL from the 2022 NC game are still on UGA's roster. Three others on the OL got PT. Carson Beck played some in that NC game. Branson Robinson had 42 rushing yards and 2 TD at RB in the national championship. Dillon Bell and Arian Smith each caught passes. 7 players on the current defense recorded tackles in that NC game.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:10 am to SCDawg95
Took the bait
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:15 am to DawginSC
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Two starters on the OL from the 2022 NC game are still on UGA's roster. Three others on the OL got PT. Carson Beck played some in that NC game. Branson Robinson had 42 rushing yards and 2 TD at RB in the national championship. Dillon Bell and Arian Smith each caught passes. 7 players on the current defense recorded tackles in that NC game.
This is the actual argument - UGA has returning talent. The fact they won a title doesn't really impact this year.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:18 am to TheDeathValley
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This is the actual argument - UGA has returning talent. The fact they won a title doesn't really impact this year.
Well, it kind of does.
Returning players is nice, but not as useful if they're returning from a bad unit.
UGA has returning players who were part of a NC team 2 years ago and more returning players who were part of a team that ended up 3rd/4th in the nation last year.
It's not just returning talent. It's returning successful talent.
LSU returning guys on defense is not the same as UGA returning guys on defense... because LSU's defense sucked last year.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:18 am to MackDaddyBrown
It is not about what you were last season. It is all about what you having coming back this season.
I don't know about Texas but Georgia has a lot returning for this season. That is generally a good sign.
Pre-season rankings mean nothing to me. I wish they would not even have rankings until about the 4th week, but rankings keep a buzz going and creates interest in the sport and gives us fans something to talk about.
I don't know about Texas but Georgia has a lot returning for this season. That is generally a good sign.
Pre-season rankings mean nothing to me. I wish they would not even have rankings until about the 4th week, but rankings keep a buzz going and creates interest in the sport and gives us fans something to talk about.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:19 am to MackDaddyBrown
Calm down skippy. Texas just got promoted to the big leagues after climbing out of a couple of jumped up Group of conferences. You will get a shot to validate your overblown sense of self worth soon enough
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:21 am to DawginSC
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UGA was ranked at the same level as Texas at the end of last season (3rd/4th).
This is why I am so very very happy that the dumb BCS selection process is finally dead and all these string pulling media idiots just have to watch the game now.
UGA was either #1 or #2 every week of the rankings until the final poll and then was kicked to the curb because of the SEC championship game loss to #8 Bama.
Texas is out of the conversation at #7 the entire process due to its loss to a decent but not great Oklahoma tea, and then is vaulted in.
Texas loses its game while Georgia puts an unholy beating on FSU.
Both should have been in and the expanded playoffs will rectify these situations.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:21 am to Smokeyone
Shame on you OP. That was too easy.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:26 am to MackDaddyBrown
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objectively
Oh
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:30 am to TheDeathValley
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As always, has nothing to do with this year.
Thank you.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:32 am to MackDaddyBrown
Sure there is. Georgia has consistently been one of the best programs in the last decade. Texas has not.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:28 am to MackDaddyBrown
they won more games last year
they’ve been better longer
people think they’re better than you
they were ranked ahead of you in the coaches poll.
You lost your bowl game.
just spitballing here
they’ve been better longer
people think they’re better than you
they were ranked ahead of you in the coaches poll.
You lost your bowl game.
just spitballing here
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