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re: The trouble with Johnny

Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:05 am to
Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
3087 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:05 am to
That whole article is bullshite. Do you naive people know when your chain is being pulled. Johnny is enjoying the the shite out of thiis attention. It's all a act. After this year and he moves on he will only be another heisman bust. He better enjoy this, cause it will be over in a blink of a eye.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30326 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:06 am to
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My favorite part of the entire article:
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His father defended him too, getting banned from the TexAgs message board and then, after borrowing a friend's login, getting his friend banned too.


I bet you daddyff is a poster on here too.
Posted by Ptolemy's
StarkVegas, Missifrickingssippi
Member since Jun 2013
976 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:08 am to
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daddyff is a poster on here too


WhiskeyBent?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44339 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:16 am to
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WhiskeyBent?


I certainly hope not. That guy has a very strange obsession with JFF and shouldn't be allowed within 500 yards of him. If it is his dad I can see why JFF is so fricked up though.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 10:17 am
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37301 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:19 am to
maybe it's roger klarvin (?)- he's crazed and gets accused of being a texas fan which seems plausible for daddyff considering his apparent bad taste for a&m.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 10:22 am
Posted by t - cam
Dallas
Member since Sep 2012
332 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:31 am to
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this is so dumb. He doesn't use being 20 as an excuse. He uses it as a choice. He is choosing to enjoy being 20.




This could be one of the dumbest statements I've ever seen on this site, which is impressive. Using his age as a reason for his actions is the definition of an excuse.



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people fighting in war are typically there cause they have to be.




If you really believe this shite then I feel sorry for you. Every single person who joins any branch of the military does so by CHOICE. It's not like they are forced to do it.


While I certainly don't want to create a blanket statement about the armed forces and the people who choose to enter I will say this. Most of the poeple that end up serving do so out of a lack of options. This is obviously not all but most. My brother being one of them when he joined.

Johnny doesn't act the way he does because he can't control his actions. Most people that have interviewed all reference how smart he is. He acts the way he does because of a choice he makes to live a normal college life as he sees it.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:49 am to
I am literally disgusted by that article. I spent the retarded amount of time needed to read the entire thing and now realize that I could have done something so much more productive with that time, like scratch my arse or something.

That was the biggest load of propaganda I've ever read. Oh no, poor little Johnny is sad because he is famous and won the greatest award in college football and has models flocking after him despite the fact that he looks like a redheaded troll and drives a mercedes that his daddy bought him and has his own personal assistant and and and and and and.....



Little bitches that cry because they can't beat their daddy at golf are gonna be little bitches. The entire analogy about his dad and the golf bullshite sums up the whole thing.

He has everything but everything isn't enough.

Hs rock bottom is going to be complete anarchy. I'm taking on a Faces of Death level. It will be painful to watch but you will not be able to tear yourself away.

And it will be glorious.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30568 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:49 am to
He is extremely troubled.

Oh, bullshite. He's a white kid from a privileged background that most likely (judging by his parents' statements) grew up in a very permissive home where he rarely heard, "no".
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:50 am to
wright thompson did a great job on this one.

money doesn't solve everything i guess.

one of my fave parts of the article is that it took JFF's younger sister to convince his parents not to get JFF (johnny fricking football) on personalized licnese plates bc it would set a bad example.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:51 am to
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In the spring, the school and his parents got him to a therapist.

The counselor told Johnny to build walls around himself, set boundaries. First, his parents' autographs should be limited to half an hour a week. The therapist told him to get off Twitter.

After two or so visits, because of a hectic schedule, Johnny stopped going.

IMHO, this says a lot.

Anyone who sincerely seeks guidance due to their life becoming unmanageable, then turns right around and rejects the guidance or help, they will invariably become a victim of their own poor choices unless they have somehow figured it out on their own.
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The Manziels are tired of a coach getting a million dollars and their son getting an appointment with a therapist.

I'm thinking the entire family needs a therapist.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 11:29 am
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6845 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:53 am to
Like most people this kid has some inherent advantages and disadvantages in his life, just a little more extreme than others. Advantages: some wealth and extraordinary athletic ability, Disadvantages: Not very smart (at least in emotional intelligence).

If the pressure of being Johnny Football is too much just quit the game. Because of the wealth in his family he does not be dependent on a potential NFL career to feed them. Quit, relax, end of story. I would hate that because this Soap Opera is entertaining, but he has to do what’s best for him.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30568 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:54 am to
Are JFF's parents related to the Lohans?
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32894 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:55 am to
I think I've posted in a thread about Manziel like once ever but damn this kid is turning into a hand full. He is not handling fame well. Like the poster above me mentioned he seems like he's a couple weeks away from hanging out with Lindsey Lohan and Amanda Bynes.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 10:57 am
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
14663 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:03 am to
I feel bad for the kid, and always have. I feel the same way about the royal family, always in the spot light, always having to pretend to be something you aren't to avoid scrutiny. I am not the type of personality who would relish the spotlight.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:21 am to
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i know i really would love to know what daddyff did to get banned.

Twice!
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2580 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:26 am to
Just read the article. I now feel sorry for manziel. Obviously I still think he is a jackass who needs to grow up and learn that at 20 years old, whether you are super famous or a no body, you have to follow the rules of society. But I really think that his parents are inhibiting his ability to grow into a responsible adult.

examples:
1. Airing out all that dirty laundry in the article for which JM is no where near equiped to handle the criticism he will receive. This keeps JM in the spotlight, which he needs a break of for awhile.

2. Ordering his boy drinks at resturaunts when he feels that JM has a drinking problem. Only sends the message that ultimately Mr. Manziel is alright with how Jm drinks.

3. Giving generally awful advice and destroying in JMs eyes the credibility of the superiors in JMs life (Sumlin, TAMU AD Admin, NCAA, the Police). How is JM supposed to respect his superiors when they have no credibility to JM.

Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:29 am to
From the article:

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The counselor told Johnny to build walls around himself, set boundaries. First, his parents' autographs should be limited to ?half an hour a week. The therapist told him to get off Twitter.

Johnny checks his anger for a few holes, but soon he's throwing a wedge and walking between holes while everyone else takes a cart, struggling to calm himself.

They're concerned. Paul thinks Johnny drinks to deal with the stress

If it were my son, I would see to it that he remained in counseling. Yet they contribute to his problems by hounding him for autographs, buying him a Mercedes, and giving him a free flow of cash. His problems are indicative of parents with too much cash and not enough time.

I actually feel sorry for him. He is heading for disaster. Too bad no one seems to really care.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 11:38 am
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:33 am to
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If it were my son, I would see to it that he remained in counseling. Yet they contribute to his problems by hounding him for autographs, buying him a Mercedes, and giving him a free flow of cash. His problems are indicative of parents with too much cash and not enough time.

I actually feel sorry for him. He is heading for disaster. Too bad no one seems to really care.

The entire family needs counseling.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30326 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:34 am to
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examples:
1. Airing out all that dirty laundry in the article for which JM is no where near equiped to handle the criticism he will receive. This keeps JM in the spotlight, which he needs a break of for awhile.

2. Ordering his boy drinks at resturaunts when he feels that JM has a drinking problem. Only sends the message that ultimately Mr. Manziel is alright with how Jm drinks.

3. Giving generally awful advice and destroying in JMs eyes the credibility of the superiors in JMs life (Sumlin, TAMU AD Admin, NCAA, the Police). How is JM supposed to respect his superiors when they have no credibility to JM.
This blind leading the blind in this situation IMO. Paul has no respect for authority, aTm compliance/atm coaching staff/NCAA rules and regs/police. Therefore, his son has no respect for his own father/family members/friends/therapist - eventually JM will show a lack of respect for Sumlin. I don't see Sumlin putting up with that crap.
Posted by TooCold
Alaska
Member since Sep 2011
264 posts
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:35 am to
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his is a punk kid, that people keep making excuses for him being 20, while we have 20 years olds dying in war every day.


I was in the Marine Corps as a twenty year old, and for a number years after that. The partying we did when we weren't working would make Johnny blush.
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