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re: The SECrants thoughts on Tennessee football

Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:27 pm to
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Name one east team that has played Bama and LSU the past 2 years? The only other one is Florida and they got Auburn instead of Arky last year.


You said name one, and you named it yourself. I'm not sure what you're trying to tell him here.
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 3:28 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:27 pm to
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Sorry I proved you wrong on everything. If you did some research you would understand. Its not a hard concept.



There is so much ignorance in your post, it will take a while to get to it all. After the Masters I will get to it.

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Recruiting is the main reason. He has a good eye for talent, and that is the most important thing at UT.



What is this based on other than blind hope?

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I don't know if he will win championships. I have no idea, but very few coaches can do good with the situation Dooley was given. Very few.



So because Dooley has failed miserably so far, that means everyone would?
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:28 pm to
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Sorry I proved you wrong on everything. If you did some research you would understand. Its not a hard concept.

Recruiting is the main reason. He has a good eye for talent, and that is the most important thing at UT.

I don't know if he will win championships. I have no idea, but very few coaches can do good with the situation Dooley was given. Very few.


If he can't win championships, there's no reason to keep him around after this year.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:28 pm to
Yes. You stated UT was the only team from the East that played both Bama and LSU. Just stop already.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:28 pm to
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You're an idiot if you don't. Stability is the only thing Vols fans have been aiming for the last few years, and it's the only thing we're not getting. Well, that and wins.


If Dooley is fired, UT will get another unproven coach and will have to scavenge another recruiting class. I hate to break it to you, but UT doesn't hire big name coaches. UT has always hired up and comers and if Dooley is fired this year, it is pretty much a guarantee Kirby Smart is the first choice.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:30 pm to
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If Dooley is fired, UT will get another unproven coach and will have to scavenge another recruiting class. I hate to break it to you, but UT doesn't hire big name coaches. UT has always hired up and comers and if Dooley is fired this year, it is pretty much a guarantee Kirby Smart is the first choice.

No one consistently hires big name coaches. That said, we won't hire someone who has proven as little as Dooley. What are we going to do, find someone who is losing in high school?
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:30 pm to
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es. You stated UT was the only team from the East that played both Bama and LSU. Just stop already.



Your not good at comprehension are you? I said nor does any SEC east team have to play Bama every year and play LSU for the past 2 years?
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30839 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:33 pm to
I'm usually good at comprehension, but I missed that. My bad.

What are your expectations as a UT fan? It seems like you don't have high standards. Most UT fans on here seem to want National relevance again.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:34 pm to
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There is so much ignorance in your post, it will take a while to get to it all. After the Masters I will get to it.



Lol, again sorry you are wrong and your only comeback is I'm ignorant. Just do some research.

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What is this based on other than blind hope?


Curt Maggit, Brain Randolph, Justin Hunter, I could go on. Not to mention, that almost all the recruits he signed last year got boosted in rankings, Peterman and Croom are perfect examples.

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So because Dooley has failed miserably so far, that means everyone would?



How has he failed miserably? Because he can't win 10 games with a team full of 18 year olds. With Hunter, UT wins 8 games. People seem to forget that we lost our 2 best players on offense.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:34 pm to
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Your an idiot



Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:37 pm to
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How has he failed miserably? Because he can't win 10 games with a team full of 18 year olds. With Hunter, UT wins 8 games. People seem to forget that we lost our 2 best players on offense.


10 games? Derek Dumbass couldn't get to six despite the fact Tennessee had considerably more talent than six opponents.

It's also embarrassing to have him celebrating like a champion after dodging a bullet against Vanderbilt. People bitch about how Kiffin didn't respect Tennessee's traditions, but at least he remembered who the big games were. Dooley just seems happy to get to a bowl game. It's a good thing we're playing the opener in the Georgia Dome, or Dooley would never make it there.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:38 pm to
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I'm usually good at comprehension, but I missed that. My bad.

What are your expectations as a UT fan? It seems like you don't have high standards. Most UT fans on here seem to want National relevance again.



I want national relevance again, but its going to take time. People think UT will suddenly become a powerhouse in one year but its not going to happen. We are still a long way away from the talent level of LSU and Bama, and UT cant rely solely on instate talent to cheat the process.

The most important thing in college football is recruiting, and Dooley can do that. If he wins 8 or 9 games for the next 2 years, our classes are going to sky rocket. It doesnt matter how bad of a gameday coach he is. Miles isn't that good of a gameday coach but he is great at spotting talent.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87208 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:38 pm to
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Your not good at comprehension are you? I said nor does any SEC east team have to play Bama every year and play LSU for the past 2 years?


UF has to play LSU every year and in 08 and 09 they faced bama in the SEC title. They played in the regular season in 10 and 11. So again your statement is false.
Posted by Jerry the Clown
The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla
Member since Nov 2011
3272 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:38 pm to
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UTVols2618




For the love of Christ, please.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30839 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:38 pm to
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With Hunter, UT wins 8 games.


Can I borrow your crystal ball?
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:39 pm to
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f he can't win championships, there's no reason to keep him around after this year.



I said I don't know. I haven't seen anything to make me say he is the greatest coach of all time, but I haven't seen anything that makes him a bad coach either.

So we'll just have to recruit different players to fit in the system the new head coach wants? Thats going to take time.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:39 pm to
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I want national relevance again, but its going to take time. People think UT will suddenly become a powerhouse in one year but its not going to happen. We are still a long way away from the talent level of LSU and Bama, and UT cant rely solely on instate talent to cheat the process.

The most important thing in college football is recruiting, and Dooley can do that. If he wins 8 or 9 games for the next 2 years, our classes are going to sky rocket. It doesnt matter how bad of a gameday coach he is. Miles isn't that good of a gameday coach but he is great at spotting talent.



Newsflash: The people in power know Dooley is a loser. 9 wins will save him, but he's not getting away with two 8 win seasons.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:41 pm to
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I said I don't know. I haven't seen anything to make me say he is the greatest coach of all time, but I haven't seen anything that makes him a bad coach either.


Guess you missed the Kentucky game, him losing the locker room, etc.

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So we'll just have to recruit different players to fit in the system the new head coach wants? Thats going to take time.


As opposed to just losing slightly less games over that same period of time and then having to start over anyways.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:42 pm to
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Curt Maggit, Brain Randolph, Justin Hunter, I could go on.


He has signed classes ranked around 15th both years, unless those classes are underrated that is not good enough.

Obviously anyone can evaluate the 4 and 5 stars, but when you are not pulling elite classes, you need some lower rated guys to pan out. Outside of Randolph, who has he evaluated well?

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Not to mention, that almost all the recruits he signed last year got boosted in rankings, Peterman and Croom are perfect examples.


What does this prove? Pat Martin and Matt Milton got bumps as well.

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How has he failed miserably?


He went 1-7 in the SEC last year with a loss to UK with a WR playing QB as well as getting blown out by any team with a pulse.

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Because he can't win 10 games with a team full of 18 year olds.


6 would be nice.

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With Hunter, UT wins 8 games


How the hell do you know that? Have you developed WAR for college football?

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People seem to forget that we lost our 2 best players on offense.



Every team in the SEC deals with injuries. Vandy lost their best offensive player and won more games than us.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:44 pm to
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10 games? Derek Dumbass couldn't get to six despite the fact Tennessee had considerably more talent than six opponents.

It's also embarrassing to have him celebrating like a champion after dodging a bullet against Vanderbilt. People bitch about how Kiffin didn't respect Tennessee's traditions, but at least he remembered who the big games were. Dooley just seems happy to get to a bowl game. It's a good thing we're playing the opener in the Georgia Dome, or Dooley would never make it there.



Considerably more talent? You do know that Vandy could have more draft picks than UT this year. Experience is so important in football. I don't care how talented a player is coming out of highschool, they are at a disadvantage to any other players that have been playing in college football.

Juniors and seniors in college are getting world class training and has been in a system for over 3 years. They understand it. They have learned football. Ut has yet to have that luxury yet.

Kiffin also forgot about lesser games and got beat by Ole Miss, Auburn, and UCLA, all teams UT were much more talented than.
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