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re: The SECrants thoughts on Tennessee football

Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:14 pm to
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lol, Saban lost ULM, Miles lost to La Tech, Spurrier lost to Vandy two years in a row.



Both Saban and Spurrier already had national titles at the time. When Dooley beats someone, anyone, of significance, he will be given the benefit of the doubt as well.

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In 2010, Dooley was ranked above UGA in recruiting.


1 out of 3 years is not enough. Though he was able to rank above GA in 2010 with the help of Kiffin, look at the school's classes since.

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In 2011, Dooley was ranked right behind UF in recruiting.


Whoopity, once out of every 3 years we almost beat them. I assume you'll be fine with close losses every now and then to them on the field as well?

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In 2012, Dooley was ranked ahead of LSU.


Once in 3 years. Tennessee still far, far behind LSU. They were coming off back-to-back top 5 classes. Dooley has never come close to recruiting at an elite level.

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So your wrong on that.


LOL.

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Its hard to do that when UT is playing a team full of freshmen his first year, and then loses his 4 best players the second year.


A lot of SEC coaches have things go wrong, but not many are as good at whining and making excuses as Dookey. Fans like you buy in to his bullshite though, so I guess I see why he does it now.

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UT has had a top 5 strength of schedule for the past 2 years.


We are playing in the SEC, get used to it.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29252 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:15 pm to
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UTVols2618
The SECrants thoughts on Tennessee football

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lol, Saban lost ULM,


In year #1. What did Saban do in year #2? What did Dooley do? What did Saban do in year #3? What will Dooley do?
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 1:16 pm
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:16 pm to
Any comparison beyond years one & two at Oklahoma State & Michigan State under Saban or Miles are inapplicable at this point.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30839 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:20 pm to
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even with our recent struggles we are still a better program than 3/4 of the SEC. fricking deal with it.


Yeah, you dumb.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:22 pm to
He is talking about all-time, I guess.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30839 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:33 pm to
I hope so.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:33 pm to
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Your team is the new OM of the East. You will be fighting for Music City Mayhem for eternity. DWI. At least you have womens bball.


I don't know about that.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:35 pm to
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I get a kick out of the Fla. guys talking smack to the Vols......"cripple fight!!" . Seriously, as long a Muschamp is in Florida. The only thing he will be producing is foul language. Vols will come back one day, maybe not with Dooley. Until then...frick Tennessee

Well we've beaten them 7 years in a row.
And until y'all actually win something, I don't think an Arky fan should be talking trash about either school.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:37 pm to
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I think UT has a good chance at beating Kentucky this year, other SEC teams..... doubtful.
frick Tennessee

They have a good chance to beat anyone outside of Bama and UGA.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:08 pm to
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Both Saban and Spurrier already had national titles at the time. When Dooley beats someone, anyone, of significance, he will be given the benefit of the doubt as well.


It took a national champion 5 years to win more than 7 games in a season at USCjr. Beating someone better doesn't really mean anything. I could easily argue that Vandy or Cincinatti had better players, not more talented, when we played them.

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1 out of 3 years is not enough. Though he was able to rank above GA in 2010 with the help of Kiffin, look at the school's classes since.


Dooley got the best players on the team except for Bray and James in 2010. The 2011 class has more starters and players than the 2010 class so I don't know where your going with that. For a team that hasn't had more than 7 wins since 07, he is recruiting great.

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Whoopity, once out of every 3 years we almost beat them. I assume you'll be fine with close losses every now and then to them on the field as well?


Was I the one complaining that Dooley wasn't recruiting anywhere near UF? No it was you.

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Once in 3 years. Tennessee still far, far behind LSU. They were coming off back-to-back top 5 classes. Dooley has never come close to recruiting at an elite level.


Dooley has taken over a team that hasn't won more than 7 games in over 5 years. Look at the rankings, UT has the highest recruiting class out of teams with a losing season. UT isn't going to recruit on that level again until they start winning.

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LOL.


I just proved you wrong on all your points again.

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A lot of SEC coaches have things go wrong, but not many are as good at whining and making excuses as Dookey. Fans like you buy in to his bull shite though, so I guess I see why he does it now.


No, fans like you think college football is like NCAA 2012. Guess what, its not. Name me a team as young and depthless as the vols, now name me a team that loses its 3 best players. Its not rocket science. Houston was 5-7 without Keenum. Every passing team would be a lot worse if they lost their only qb and best reciever. Do you forget UT has had to start a true freshmen qb for the past 2 years? Name the last true freshmen to start in the SEC not on Tennessee.

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We are playing in the SEC, get used to it.

Not every SEC team has had to play Oregon when they are rebuilding. Nor does any sec east team have to play bama every year along with LSU the past 2 years. Kiffin had a much easier schedule with a much better team and still would have had the same record as Dooley if UT didn't get screwed in the Music City Bowl.


Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:11 pm to
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In year #1. What did Saban do in year #2? What did Dooley do? What did Saban do in year #3? What will Dooley do?


two different scenarios. Saban had over 15 starting seniors when he won the NC for the first time at Bama. Dooley hasn't had that many starting seniors and juniors in 2 years combined.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:17 pm to
I am not really interested in dealing with a VolNation mental invalid like you, so I'll just ask you this, what has Derek Dooley done in the 27 months since arriving that makes you believe he'll win championships at Tennessee?
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:19 pm to
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I know you guys were in a bad place when Coach Kiffen bolted on short notice, but I didn't think at the time Coach Dooley was going to be the answer. I thought it would have been a good move to bring Coach Fulmer back for a season and take the time to find a better candidate


An interim coach could have worked, but not Fulmer. Too many idiot fans would have been so afraid of another coaching change after Kiffin they would have probably held on to Fulmer for dear life.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30839 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:19 pm to
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Nor does any sec east team have to play bama every year along with LSU the past 2 years.


Wrong.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:20 pm to
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The worst thing to happen to Tennessee is for Dooley to fail. Recruiting will go straight down the drain and UT will have restart the process. Fans should be praying he is the answer because if he's not, our recruiting class will go straight down the drain this year.


If Tennessee fans need to learn anything, it's that trying to retain idiot coaches as a temporary fix to avoid a bad recruiting class is an awful, awful idea.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:23 pm to
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am not really interested in dealing with a VolNation mental invalid like you, so I'll just ask you this, what has Derek Dooley done in the 27 months since arriving that makes you believe he'll win championships at Tennessee?



Sorry I proved you wrong on everything. If you did some research you would understand. Its not a hard concept.

Recruiting is the main reason. He has a good eye for talent, and that is the most important thing at UT.

I don't know if he will win championships. I have no idea, but very few coaches can do good with the situation Dooley was given. Very few.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:23 pm to
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If Tennessee fans need to learn anything, it's that trying to retain idiot coaches as a temporary fix to avoid a bad recruiting class is an awful, awful idea.


Your an idiot if you believe this.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:23 pm to
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UTVols2618


You're comparing Tennessee to historically mediocre to awful programs to justify Dooley sucking. When are people going to admit he sucks and get on with it?
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:25 pm to
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Your an idiot if you believe this.


You're an idiot if you don't. Stability is the only thing Vols fans have been aiming for the last few years, and it's the only thing we're not getting. Well, that and wins.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 3:26 pm to
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Wrong.


Name one east team that has played Bama and LSU the past 2 years? The only other one is Florida and they got Auburn instead of Arky last year.
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