UTVols2618

Michigan and Ohio State battles will be fun

If you're going by numbers, Barnett kills Garret. Most of Barnett's stats came against SEC teams while Garret's were against teams like Rice. Barnett was also hurt for the whole first half of the season but had to keep playing since we already lost Maggit for the year. Garret will be the higher draft pick tho because he's more athletic than anyone on that list

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What this basically tells me that everyone is the same outside of Bama, USC and Florida State. I've seen mods come back with a score and talk about it on 247, Rivals and Scout and the difference in a couple of points is negligible and subjective.

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Average star rankings is not a good indicator because it all depends on your need. Lane Kiffin was notorious for stacking up on skill players to raise his avg star ranking, and focuses too much on quantity instead of quality. Rivals just adds the top 20 players so teams like UT won't be penalized for taking a long snapper and kicker or having to take more players to provide depth.

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Rivals lol.

You have one 5* on 247.


ETA: 61 commits in 2 years is what's absurd.

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UT actually has more 5 stars on 247 than Rivals.
Kyle Phillips, Mckenzie, Preston Williams, and Alvin Kamara are 5 stars on 247

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Saulsberry is a 3rd team DT but we need all the help we need at DT

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Lol, Saulsberry is the best dt we've had in the the past 3 years when healthy. He was way better than anyone on the field last year

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We're about to land Tuttle, who is a better DT than Jones.

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Dj Jones is better, but he is a one and done. UT is going to be terrible next year so I think they chose 4 years over 1 year. They couldn't realistically take both because both are expecting early pt and thats just not possible with our depth next year. It was either a one year starter now or a 3 year starter later. They chose the latter

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How do you think this is gonna work out down the line? did the same last year too, right?...Sounds like your gonna have at least 6 HS Coaches sending future recruits elsewhere...

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Every coach does it, it is what it is. He wouldn't do it to an instate school and he can always word it to give a benefit of a doubt. He told Sterling Johnson when he wanted to commit that players moved to his position so that have to make sure he is what they need now.

They told Jerome Dews linebacker is looking good so they will have to see how he can play at safety.

Kevin Mouhon visited Cincinnati and they told him its best for both parties to move on.

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Aren't you worried that in a year or two, if this tactic continues, so many bridges will be burnt (HS football Coaches are a fraternity, they know each other, talk to each other constantly & have long memories) from cutting kids after they've committed that UT's name will be mud with HS Coaches across the south?

Just curious what you think the long term consequences of a strategy like this will mean UT?...

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I'm pretty sure it was MUS, where Drew Richmond plays, that banned Mark Elder and Butch from the school. There is nothing words can't fix, and high school coaches think they have more control over their players recruitment than they actually do. A player will go to a school he likes. Jabo Lee's coach in South Carolina said he won't send any players to play for Butch, but we will see how long that last. Some relationships can be fixed, some can't.

If Butch wins big, its not going to matter. Saban does it all the time, but no coach would actually stop their kid from playing under Saban

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Butch has not done anything to make me believe he is some great talent evaluator. He has done a good job of recruiting elite guys, but what has he shown that makes you confident in his ability to evaluate/coach guys up?

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I watched him a lot at Cincy since I gamble on football games. He recruited and developed a lot of guys there and even CMU. Justin Wolf, Kenbrell Thompkins, Antonio Brown, Isaih Pead, and Travis Kelce are players off the top of my head that he developed and are doing well in the NFL.
Also Tubbs did well with his players last year, took UL to overtime.

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Neither Mixon or Humphreys have played a down of college football yet, so not sure that is a good example. Ahmad Paige and Jacques Smith were great spring players too.

The fans are in love with Butch, but he did a very mediocre job coaching last year.

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Thats true, but the same can be said about Hurd or any other freshmen looking good. I'm just saying as of right now, Mixon is looking pretty good.

Mediocre is pushing it. I'm sure he wishes he could have UF or Vandy back, but he did well enough to win 8-9 games if he had decent players. I don't know if he can get to consistent 10 win seasons, but I'm quite confident he will at least average 8 wins a year. He has wins against Strong, Marrone, Dantonio, Spurrier, Franklin, and Schiano with on par or less talent. He is at least a decent in game coach.

Nice grab by the Volunteers. I had a chance to see him a few weeks back and he has taken his game up another level. It was right after he picked up his Ohio State offer after he went up to Columbus. I'd been hearing he was having a pretty strong spring and he showed really well at a 7on7 tournament in Dallas in early June. I'd been hearing quite a few reports but when I saw him in Dallas at the 7on7 tournament it was pretty evident he had taken his game up a notch.

"He is currently a 5.5 3-star but I see him making a nice jump in the 3-stars in the next evaluation meetings. He was at the top of his game. He had a nice swagger to him that day. He was often assigned the other team's top guy and he won far more than he lost. He has some nice long arms and fluid hips. He was quick out of his break and while he was aggressive he was always under control. He's also a hard worker and plays for a great high school program in Dallas.

-Adam Gorney

I wonder how many people know Mark Dantonio coached at Cincinatti for 3 years before Kelly.