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re: The SEC Should Seriously Consider Kicking LSU Out

Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:51 pm to
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Sigh ..... another response, another opportunity to explain what I've supposedly gotten wrong, and another failure to do so.
You've had ample opportunity to utilize a resource totally available to you. Why you absolutely refuse to click that link is baffling and childish

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Does the SEC have the authority to establish and enforce eligibility rules for its member institutions, subject to applicable law, or doesn't it?
Up to a point
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:52 pm to
Looks like you win the longest thread of the day.

Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:53 pm to
Yes. Conferences can and do have their own rules in addition to NCAA rules. That's the entire point of conference governance. The NCAA establishes broader eligibility standards, while individual conferences can impose additional requirements, subject to applicable law.

And nobody is denying Alabama played Bediako for five games under a temporary court order. When that order was lifted, Alabama stopped playing him. LSU didn't play the disputed players, and I've never claimed otherwise.

But you're still confusing the underlying eligibility controversy with the SEC's authority to govern its membership. They're related issues but they aren't identical legal questions.

You can argue the SEC applied its rules inconsistently. That's a legitimate argument that requires evidence. But insisting all conferences must have identical rules simply because they compete in the NCAA shows you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how college athletics is organized.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:53 pm to
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Well shite this is easy,

we knew we’d beat Clemson, Tech, and Mcneese.





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What do I win?


You named it.

Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:53 pm to
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If Alabama were challenging the SEC's authority in federal court


You have stated this a few times. Show us where LSU is challenging the SEC's authority in federal court.

They are not. In fact they have agreed that the SEC has the authority to enforce its rules when LSU responded in court to the lawsuit.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 3:55 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:54 pm to
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If you believe Alabama violated the same conference obligations under comparable circumstances


The SEC's professionalism rules, which barred Bediako from participation, have been around for over 100 years. Your coach flat out said he didn't care about those and would violate again given the opportunity.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:55 pm to
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Whether LSU's conduct constitutes grounds for expulsion under the SEC's governing documents
It most certainly does not.

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nobody has established that LSU is immune from consequences simply because it ultimately complied.
Factually incorrect
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:55 pm to
There's always a LOT of people who have zero clue how these things work. Never a shortage of them.
Posted by QBUMizzou
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:55 pm to
You know your team sucks when you have nothing to discuss but petty legal stuff.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:56 pm to
"Up to a point" is exactly right. The SEC's authority is subject to its governing documents and applicable law. Nobody has argued otherwise. The question is where that legal limit lies and whether the SEC has exceeded it.

That's what courts determine, based on actual legal arguments and evidence. Telling me to read another thread doesn't establish where that limit is or how the SEC crossed it. You keep insisting I've misunderstood the law while declining to explain precisely what I've gotten wrong.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:57 pm to
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The larger question still is whether the SEC has sufficient grounds under its governing documents to take action against LSU.


:rotflmao:
Posted by DeathByTossDive226
Member since Sep 2026
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:59 pm to
My post:
quote:

1. Harris and Wright win TROs.
2. TRO becomes injunction, SEC loses appeal in 1st circuit
3. SEC doesn’t even vote to punish LSU, much less expel
4. Federal lawsuit delayed, motion to dismiss in process
5. Harris and Wright + 40 Pyburn plaintiffs file contempt motion against the SEC and Sankey — pending failure of the federal suit

Your post:
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You claimed shite like the lawsuit being delayed after LSU complied as you being right.

Seems a bit reductive. Dare I say dishonest?

Definitely make sure you avoid that lil ole contempt motion… LSU fans only been calling that from the day of the injunction hearing / federal suit.

Yup… we haven’t been right about anything

Meanwhile you’re ignoring evidence of the conference being “arbitrary and capricious” with enforcement of its new rule because you “don’t care about basketball”.

Brilliant stuff man, keep up the good fight.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 3:59 pm to
Bediako played under a temporary court order, and Alabama stopped playing him when that order was lifted.

You can disagree with the decision to play him but acting under a court order isn't the same as disregarding conference rules without legal protection. And a coach saying he'd make the same decision again doesn't establish that Alabama violated an enforceable rule.

If you're arguing the SEC should apply its standards consistently, I agree. That standard applies to LSU just as much as Alabama.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 4:00 pm to
Ok, that's funny
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 4:02 pm to
Then cite the specific SEC bylaw or court order that categorically prevents disciplinary action against LSU.

Not your interpretation, not another thread and not another declaration that I'm wrong

The actual provision and how it applies.

If your position is as legally settled as you claim, that should be a simple request.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 4:02 pm to
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I think the lawsuit gets dismissed as LSU has stated in its rebuttal that the SEC has the authority to enforce its rules. Not sure how a court would keep it going forward if the primary reason for the lawsuit is not disputed by the defendant.



This is the funniest part. Anyone who's practiced law for like a day understands that this lawsuit is going nowhere as there is really no controversy. The Plaintiffs want a court order saying they can kick out a member and said member has stated over and over and over that the conferences authority to do so is not in question. Fed courts don't waste their time with that level of petty bullshite
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9577 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 4:03 pm to
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And a coach saying he'd make the same decision again doesn't establish that Alabama violated an enforceable rule.


BINGO!

You just made the point that every LSU fan has been making since the lawsuit was filed against LSU. Just considering adding a player to a roster doesn't establish that LSU violated an enforceable rule.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
64518 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 4:03 pm to
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1. LSU gets in line, takes the penalties, it gets established that the SEC has the right to enforce it's standards and everyone moves on.



So you know, the SEC is not requesting penalties in conjunction with this case. So, that won't be a direct result. You should have known this, but since you didn't, I wanted to point out that your #1 was impossible.

Also, LSU isn't going to accept penalties. It isn't going to publicly acknowledge wrongdoing. You MIGHT get a mutual statement from LSU and the SEC that this is being put behind them. That will be an indicator that the SEC has no more cards to play.

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2. LSU gets kicked out of the conference.



Good luck with that. It's not going to happen. The votes aren't there. And, it hurts the SEC to try.

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3. The SEC disbands and reforms outside the NCAA as a separate entity without LSU removing the chains given to the NCAA. That start they will likely play each other or maybe some games with other college teams if allowed as normal, while other conferences follow suit. The playoff committee being a separate entity is able to include both the NCAA and the SEC at the end of the year.



It's pure fantasy to think LSU won't be a part of a Super Conference. Who do you think the entity would be that would prevent LSU from being a part of it?

None of your 3 will happen.

What will probably happen is this:

The Federal Case will be dismissed with no review of merits. The jurisdictional problems and/or the lack of request for relief will get it thrown out.

The SEC will either lay low to avoid further embarrassment, or there will be some very minimal press release from LSU and the SEC to confirm that this event is behind them.

The SEC will be sued by the Lousiana plaintiffs. LSU may also be sued. The SEC will lose and/or settle with those players.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 4:04 pm to
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disregarding conference rules


The conference rules barred Bediako from participating in team activities when he was rostered last year. idk what else to tell you.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 4:06 pm to
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BINGO!



You're still treating the absence of a proven eligibility violation as the end of the discussion. It isn't. Whether LSU actually violated an eligibility rule and whether its conduct raises legitimate concerns under the SEC's membership agreements are separate questions.

The SEC would still have to establish grounds for any disciplinary action. That's been my argument all along. You haven't caught me in a contradiction. You've simply returned to the same distinction I've been explaining throughout this thread.
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