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re: The Legacy of Steve Spurrier

Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:53 pm to
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Saban doesn't coach at the University of South Carolina.


And if he did he'd win there just as he's done at Alabama and LSU.

Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:53 pm to
Great coach. Kind of a douche. Now, he's a leaning a bit more towards bitter old man. Uses up his players.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:54 pm to
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And if he did he'd win there just as he's done at Alabama and LSU.



Not sure if serious.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:55 pm to
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Saban also didn't have the luxury of coaching the SEC in the '90s when the second best coach in the conference was Phil Fulmer.


And the third best coach was Gene Stallings. Florida was on another level compared to the rest of the SEC in the 1990s. Alabama was practically the only team in the SEC West with a pulse for much of the decade and Florida as well as Tennessee were the only two competent teams in the East until Mark Richt arrived at Georgia in 2001.

This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 3:56 pm
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:55 pm to
quote:



And if he did he'd win there just as he's done at Alabama and LSU.



Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10700 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:56 pm to
Saban #2, Spurrier #3

Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:00 pm to
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So the gamecocks squeak by the outback bowl, and Spurrier is AMONG the greatest coaches of all time?



Back to back eleven win seasons at South Carolina dude.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33939 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:03 pm to
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And the third best coach was Gene Stallings. Florida was on another level compared to the rest of the SEC in the 1990s. Alabama was practically the only team in the SEC West with a pulse for much of the decade and Florida as well as Tennessee were the only two competent teams in the East until Mark Richt arrived at Georgia in 2001.


And despite all of that, Saban is guaranteed to have a higher winning percentage in the last five years (.882 if he loses to ND, .897 if he beats ND) than Spurrier's best five year stretch at Florida (.867 winning pct. from 1993-1997). Saban's unquestionably a better coach. Whether or not, he's a greater one is still up for debate because he hasn't stuck around for long enough.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11318 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:06 pm to
I'd say Spurrier and Saban are a tossup right now, but a win would give the edge to Saban.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:07 pm to
Spurrier is only second to Bryant
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:20 pm to
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deeprig9 posted: So the gamecocks squeak by the outback bowl, and Spurrier is AMONG the greatest coaches of all time?


Let the dumassness show through.

But yes, that would be correct. Only a total dumass would disagree.

BTW, with regard to the earlier post I read about the SEC being much weaker in the 90s than it is right now - true, it may have been weaker but I disagree that it was much weaker. The SEC East dominated the 90s and Tennessee was much stronger. Georgia was no slouch. Florida still played LSU every year back then, and Auburn was no slouch either. Oh, and let's not forget Stalling's Bama teams.
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:38 pm to
1) Bryant
2a) Neyland
2b) Spurrier

At some point you have to start mentioning Saban in there.
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Saban doesn't coach at the University of South Carolina.


If you have any doubt he would be successful there you just aren't paying attention.

Let's not act like LSU was a dominating force in 2000........or 2012
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9675 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:57 pm to
Spurrier only won 1 national championship to go with that boatload of SEC titles.

Saban has 3 championships with two schools, and possibly four.

I like Spurrier but I think it depends on how you measure greatness.

Marino or Elway?

For example.

Spurrier was a revolutionary and charismatic figure and absolutely dominated the SEC while at Florida.

Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:03 pm to
Top 5 for sure. He still has a couple more years to improve upon that as well. We'll see what happens.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:05 pm to
Elite?

Spurrier is in a small group at the top, from his UF days.
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3915 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:08 pm to
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Back to back eleven win seasons at South Carolina dude.


You have to actually win something, though. SEC titles are great but natl titles are better. What Spurrier did at Fla was amazing. Very decent work at SC. But I suspect Spurrier would be the first to admit that his resume is missing NC's.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Spurrier was a revolutionary and charismatic figure and absolutely dominated the SEC while at Florida.



While I respect what Spurrier did while at Florida, you really have to put his dominance into perspective. The SEC wasn't the top dog in college football in the 1990s. Georgia was mediocre, Auburn was crippled by sanctions, South Carolina was horrible, Vanderbilt was even worse, and LSU was going through the absolute worst period in their entire history. Florida, Tennessee, and to a lesser extent Alabama were the only teams in the entire conference who were consistent Top 15 teams. And even as dominant as Florida was, they were consistently the third best team in the state of Florida behind Miami and Florida State.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:12 pm to
I think realistically in accomplishments I'd say 3rd in SEC all time. If you take into account what he's done at UF and USC, I'd put him tops. He changed the way the entire SEC played football. He dominated the conference at a time when there was a lot of parity of talent and coaching.

He's done an amazing job at USC.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:13 pm to
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Oh and Saban is definitely ahead of Neyland.



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