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re: The Identity Theft of Mitch Mustain
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:17 am to WarEagleWes
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:17 am to WarEagleWes
Mustain was definitely used by Gus and the travel ball type people. But the Arkansas AD also used Dick to Nutt.
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:18 am to piggilicious
Petrino was too serious when it came to games and so playtime had to be after.
Nutt wanted play first and coaching games well that had to be delayed.
Nutt wanted play first and coaching games well that had to be delayed.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:02 am to V Bainbridge
He should have never came to Arkansas and that was his big mistake.
The way that the Mustain ordeal was handled, it caused Ryan Mallett to go to Michigan and Tyler Wilson was committed to Tulsa before Petrino was hired.
The way that the Mustain ordeal was handled, it caused Ryan Mallett to go to Michigan and Tyler Wilson was committed to Tulsa before Petrino was hired.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:13 am to beaverfever
He didn't create the hype.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:21 am to dchog
"Nutt should have been fired after the 2005 season"
Nutt could have left for Nebraska in 2004 but was talked out of it. Everyone knew we had a couple of bad seasons coming up but he stayed. I think he would have done well at Nebraska and hind sight being 20/20 I bet Nutt wishes he had left and he and his family would have been spared all the ignorant bullshite that the hogville idiots put them through.
We thought that Nutt held Malzahn back, but after watching him coach at Auburn I don't think so now.
As far as Mustain, I was pretty pumped about getting him until I watched him play in the high school all american game. He overthrew most passes and looked horrible. He was benched here after overthrowing a wide open Monk for an interception. He went to USC and wasn't good enough to play there.
Too much pressure to put on a young kid.
Nutt could have left for Nebraska in 2004 but was talked out of it. Everyone knew we had a couple of bad seasons coming up but he stayed. I think he would have done well at Nebraska and hind sight being 20/20 I bet Nutt wishes he had left and he and his family would have been spared all the ignorant bullshite that the hogville idiots put them through.
We thought that Nutt held Malzahn back, but after watching him coach at Auburn I don't think so now.
As far as Mustain, I was pretty pumped about getting him until I watched him play in the high school all american game. He overthrew most passes and looked horrible. He was benched here after overthrowing a wide open Monk for an interception. He went to USC and wasn't good enough to play there.
Too much pressure to put on a young kid.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:50 am to WarEagleWes
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I just stumbled across this documentary on Amazon Prime from 2015. It’s definitely worth a watch.
Here’s make take on it.
Houston Nutt is a huge piece of shite.
Yep...frick Houston Nutt!
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:08 pm to dchog
Mitch was growing.
Gus knew his strengths and weaknesses.
He also knew he had one of the great all time running backs, and probably the best RB duo.
Mustain was doing great, for what he was being tasked with.
Ditching Mitch was all Nutt's ego.
Gus knew his strengths and weaknesses.
He also knew he had one of the great all time running backs, and probably the best RB duo.
Mustain was doing great, for what he was being tasked with.
Ditching Mitch was all Nutt's ego.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:26 pm to Roaad
The one thing Mustain provided to the offense was the "threat" of the deep pass which kept defenses from stacking the line. That was helpful.
I would love to have seen Matt Jones at qb with that backfield, it would have been very entertaining.
We never seem to be able to get all the pieces in place at the same time.....sigh.
I would love to have seen Matt Jones at qb with that backfield, it would have been very entertaining.
We never seem to be able to get all the pieces in place at the same time.....sigh.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:33 pm to Clark14
Mustain was a pretty average HS QB who benefitted from playing in Malazahn's system before it was a thing...so no defenses had a clue yet...and he had Damian Williams and Ben Cleveland on the same team along with a couple other D1 players.
He got the hype, but Williams and Cleveland were the players that proved to be studs in college.
Yes..in this context it is spelled Malazahn.
He got the hype, but Williams and Cleveland were the players that proved to be studs in college.
Yes..in this context it is spelled Malazahn.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:51 pm to WarEagleWes
Nutt has his good points but he has a lot of bad points. Some of his Arkansas teams certainly under achieved given their talent and the state of the SEC then.
He really, really, blew things with the Springdale class. Nutt just could not stand Malzahn and vice versa.
That having been said, and with no ill will intended to Mitch Mustain, he vanished after leaving Arkansas. He went to the most loaded program in America at the time and disappeared.
Mitch, Gus, and Nutt all never quite lived up to their billing.
He really, really, blew things with the Springdale class. Nutt just could not stand Malzahn and vice versa.
That having been said, and with no ill will intended to Mitch Mustain, he vanished after leaving Arkansas. He went to the most loaded program in America at the time and disappeared.
Mitch, Gus, and Nutt all never quite lived up to their billing.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:18 pm to Clark14
Nutt should have taken the plane to Lincoln and spare Arkansas fans the future disappointment.
But he was smarter than that. He flirted with Nebraska to get more money out of Arkansas. He knew he wasn't good enough to meet expectations at Nebraska. So it was nothing more than just job security.
Nutt had losing seasons in 04 and 05 because he botched the 2000 recruiting class. He went into panic mode and took redshirts off the likes of Shawn Andrews, Matt Jones and Decori Birmingham.
Yes Nutt and his narcissist self should have high tailed out Fayetteville because Arkansas fans deserved better than that fool.
Both are frauds and it took people a little longer to figure out Malzahn.
Nutt took Mustain out because Casey Dick recovered from back surgery. Nutt supported Casey Dick as that was his QB and saw Mustain as a threat from Malzahn. It was nothing more than a political move of trading one bad QB with another bad QB.
Nutt was close to meeting his quota for the year and his job would be safe for another year. So he didn't care a bout the rest of the season.
Mustain should have went to a smaller school where the competition wasn't so intense. But he said that he liked USC because of the QB development.
Mustain didn't ask for the hype and the pressure. That is one of the reasons he transferred to USC and so the spotlight would no longer be on him.
But he was smarter than that. He flirted with Nebraska to get more money out of Arkansas. He knew he wasn't good enough to meet expectations at Nebraska. So it was nothing more than just job security.
Nutt had losing seasons in 04 and 05 because he botched the 2000 recruiting class. He went into panic mode and took redshirts off the likes of Shawn Andrews, Matt Jones and Decori Birmingham.
Yes Nutt and his narcissist self should have high tailed out Fayetteville because Arkansas fans deserved better than that fool.
Both are frauds and it took people a little longer to figure out Malzahn.
Nutt took Mustain out because Casey Dick recovered from back surgery. Nutt supported Casey Dick as that was his QB and saw Mustain as a threat from Malzahn. It was nothing more than a political move of trading one bad QB with another bad QB.
Nutt was close to meeting his quota for the year and his job would be safe for another year. So he didn't care a bout the rest of the season.
Mustain should have went to a smaller school where the competition wasn't so intense. But he said that he liked USC because of the QB development.
Mustain didn't ask for the hype and the pressure. That is one of the reasons he transferred to USC and so the spotlight would no longer be on him.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:48 pm to dchog
Jesus. What a wall of text.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:51 pm to Mr Sausage
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Jesus. What a wall of text.
so large, did it turn you on?
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:05 pm to Clark14
Matt Jones didn't have the arm strength to spread the offense out. The playcalling would still be the same with three yards and a cloud of dust.
Now put Mallet, Wilson or Allen on those teams and you really got something going.
Which makes the McFadden years that much disappointing.
Now put Mallet, Wilson or Allen on those teams and you really got something going.
Which makes the McFadden years that much disappointing.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:07 pm to Razorback Reverend
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:09 pm to dchog
Felix was pretty dang good as well. With those two and Hillis... It was fun, but could have been much more
But He got that wood!
But He got that wood!
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:15 pm to Razorback Reverend
Darren McFadden
Felix Jones
Michael Smith
Peyton hillis
Once in a lifetime backfield but 18-16 and not even a crummy bowl win.
Felix Jones
Michael Smith
Peyton hillis
Once in a lifetime backfield but 18-16 and not even a crummy bowl win.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:33 pm to Clark14
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We thought that Nutt held Malzahn back, but after watching him coach at Auburn I don't think so now.
What happened to Malzahn was everyone began adapting to and running some variation of his novel offense. That very well could have been the case in 2006.
As far as I'm concerned, it's just a microcosm of everything that is Arkansas football since 1990.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:51 pm to WarEagleWes
Honest opinion? I've watched it and of course lived it on message boards. Hell, Beck was a poster, as was Mitch. On RT, he was Clear Blue Sky.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 12:22 am to VagueMessage
It is typical Arkansas to hire a high school coach to become a QB coach and so that few Springdale players can commit.
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