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The Butterfly Effect - This is Tim Tebow’s Fault
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:47 am
Tim Tebow almost committed to Alabama and Mike Shula instead of Florida and Urban Meyer. Had he gone to Alabama, it would have changed the course of college football history.
Mike Shula would have hung on a few more years. Nick Saban would not have ended up at Alabama. The SEC football arms race would not have commenced. The SEC would not have dominated college football like they did for 15 years. The other conferences wouldn’t have had to do everything they could to a) try to keep up, and b) try to bring down the SEC. There likely would not have been the huge shakeup in conferences. There very well might not be an expanded playoff system.
And it all happened because Tim Tebow committed to Florida.
Mike Shula would have hung on a few more years. Nick Saban would not have ended up at Alabama. The SEC football arms race would not have commenced. The SEC would not have dominated college football like they did for 15 years. The other conferences wouldn’t have had to do everything they could to a) try to keep up, and b) try to bring down the SEC. There likely would not have been the huge shakeup in conferences. There very well might not be an expanded playoff system.
And it all happened because Tim Tebow committed to Florida.
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:52 am to captdalton
Interesting hypothesis....the only logical fallacy I can point out is that Saban would have ended up as a CFB head coach somewhere after the 2006 season, the question is where. Anyone know offhand what major programs had head coach openings after that season, or maybe the next?
Rumor is that he checked on coming back to LSU, but at the time Miles had performed well and LSU wasn't interested in canning him for Saban. Was that when Pete Carroll left USC for the Seahawks?
Edited to add: No, Carroll left USC after the 2008 season. Assuming Saban would have returned to coach CFB, and Alabama and LSU were off the table, where would he have gone and created a legacy? Lloyd Carr was fired at Michigan after the 2007 season....
Rumor is that he checked on coming back to LSU, but at the time Miles had performed well and LSU wasn't interested in canning him for Saban. Was that when Pete Carroll left USC for the Seahawks?
Edited to add: No, Carroll left USC after the 2008 season. Assuming Saban would have returned to coach CFB, and Alabama and LSU were off the table, where would he have gone and created a legacy? Lloyd Carr was fired at Michigan after the 2007 season....
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 11:54 am
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:55 am to captdalton
Or Tebow would have gone to Bama and fizzled out on those losing teams.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:55 am to captdalton
Nick Saban would have joined his former college teammate, Gary Pinkel, as Gary's Defensive Coordinator. They would have won 7 national championships during their time together. Nick would have taken over after the 7th title, but would be fired a few years later. Mizzou's stable success would have cemented the strength of the old Big 8, and the Texas schools would have been sent to the SWAC. Obama never happens.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:02 pm to captdalton
Drew Brees’ failed physical in Miami***
“Leaving LSU was the biggest mistake I ever made”
-Nick Saban
“Leaving LSU was the biggest mistake I ever made”
-Nick Saban
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:03 pm to captdalton
I blame it on Willis H. Carrier. If he had not invented the modern electric air conditioner, Florida would never have continued their population boom that started in the 50s. The wide regional appeal of college football would never have spread across the entire southeast because of how hard it is to have sports programs without AC to keep your players from dropping dead in the heat/humidity combo.
The entire direction college football has taken can be laid at his feet. Bastard
The entire direction college football has taken can be laid at his feet. Bastard
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:03 pm to linewar
Saban very well may have ended up back as a college head coach. But it is doubtful he would have done it in the SEC. I would bet there were only a handful, maybe as many as fifteen, programs nationwide he would have considered. In the SEC I think that would have been LSU, Alabama, probably Georgia, maybe Florida. Hate the man all you want, but he forced the SEC to get better.
Had he gone to the Pac 12, I doubt he would have had the impact on all of college football like he did in the SEC.
Had he gone to the Pac 12, I doubt he would have had the impact on all of college football like he did in the SEC.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:05 pm to linewar
I think the only other major job openings that winter were Miami, UNC, Michigan State and Az State
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:06 pm to linewar
Miami was constantly canning coaches tjen and would pay money, nick wouldn’t have to move. Fsu already have jumbo then? Texas still have Mack? Those would have worked. Osu surely would’ve canned tress for him. Tenner was on a coaching search bavk then too maybe?
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:07 pm to NFLSU
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“Leaving for Alabama was the best decision I ever made”
-Nick Saban
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:11 pm to NFLSU
The Miami medical staff did change the course of college football.
Had they cleared Drew Brees, Saban would have had the QB he wanted in Miami. He desperately wanted Brees. The team instead signed Dante Culpepper. That showed Saban how little control he really had in Miami. Had he been allowed to make player personnel decisions and signed Brees, Saban likely would have stuck around in the NFL awhile. He may not have ever come back to college. And Drew Brees wouldn’t end up at the Saints, which means they wouldn’t have won that super bowl.
I amend my early statement. This is the fault of Tebow, and air conditioning, and the Miami Dolphins. Still clearly though this is the state of Florida’s fault.
Had they cleared Drew Brees, Saban would have had the QB he wanted in Miami. He desperately wanted Brees. The team instead signed Dante Culpepper. That showed Saban how little control he really had in Miami. Had he been allowed to make player personnel decisions and signed Brees, Saban likely would have stuck around in the NFL awhile. He may not have ever come back to college. And Drew Brees wouldn’t end up at the Saints, which means they wouldn’t have won that super bowl.
I amend my early statement. This is the fault of Tebow, and air conditioning, and the Miami Dolphins. Still clearly though this is the state of Florida’s fault.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:18 pm to terd ferguson
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Or Tebow would have gone to Bama and fizzled out on those losing teams.
He very well may have. But Alabama would have given Shula a couple more years to find out. And that would mean that Nick Saban would not have taken the Alabama job.
Thank you Tim Tebow.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:23 pm to captdalton
It operates on the presumption that Tebow would have been surrounded by enough talent to be as successful as he was at Florida.
Florida had a LOT of great players during his tenure there, not just Tebow. Alabama was still rebuilding.
Florida had a LOT of great players during his tenure there, not just Tebow. Alabama was still rebuilding.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:27 pm to captdalton
Nick got a bad situation in Miami.
He’d still be great in nfl had he gone to another team, even after Miami.
He’d still be great in nfl had he gone to another team, even after Miami.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:27 pm to NFLSU
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Drew Brees’ failed physical in Miami***
Truly one of the biggest what ifs in all of sports
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:28 pm to captdalton
I thought this was going to be a thread about crying
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:31 pm to skrayper
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It operates on the presumption that Tebow would have been surrounded by enough talent to be as successful as he was at Florida.
No, it doesn’t. Tebow might have flopped in Tuscaloosa. But with him on the team, Alabama would have given Shula at least one more year to try to develop his star recruit.
This thread has nothing to do with whether Tebow would have succeeded or not in Tuscaloosa. It is all about job openings. If Tebow had committed to Alabama, that would have saved Mike Shula his job in 2006. Alabama would not have had a job opening. Thus Nick Saban would not have become Alabama’s coach.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:34 pm to captdalton
Or
Rich Rod accepts job at Bama
Rich Rod accepts job at Bama
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:35 pm to captdalton
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No, it doesn’t. Tebow might have flopped in Tuscaloosa. But with him on the team, Alabama would have given Shula at least one more year to try to develop his star recruit.
This thread has nothing to do with whether Tebow would have succeeded or not in Tuscaloosa. It is all about job openings. If Tebow had committed to Alabama, that would have saved Mike Shula his job in 2006. Alabama would not have had a job opening. Thus Nick Saban would not have become Alabama’s coach.
Perhaps Saban coaches another year in the NFL and it's all just pushed back a year.
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