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re: The Bielema Dilemma

Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:02 pm to
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Arkansas has great coaching at every position. We have several 4* players starting. 4* Hunter Henry Denver Kirkland Dan Skipper Mitch Smothers Frank Ragnow Sebastian Tretola Alex Collins J. Williams All starters on Offense 4* Bijohn Jackson Brooks Ellis H. Frohodt J. Ledbetter All will be on defense Bret is the best we have had in taking lesser ranked players and coaching the up.
In reality, there isn't much difference in 4* & 5*'s once they've been in the program for a while. BB "seems" to run a tight ship, and he puts a lot of stock in evaluating a guys character just as much as his athletic ability, which is great IMO.

I read that BB recently employed the UA Panhellenic President in the athletic dept. IMO, there's no better source to use when trying to evaluate the character and social aspects of someone coming out of high school. Sororities are very critical and picky about their prospective new members. They have a great process for evaluating sorority recruits.
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble
Member since Jan 2012
10773 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:04 pm to
So would Miss Teen Delaware not have a chance of making the team? :nb4ultimatepostspictures:
Posted by El Sid
College Station, TX
Member since Jan 2012
211 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:09 pm to
How is there not a single picture of his wife on this thread by now?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26630 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:27 pm to
I think they should have waited on the raise (same with Kentucky and Stoops). I still can't see Arky finishing better than 5th in the West.

Also, after this year, they will lose a lot on offense. QB Allen, WR Hatcher, 2 OL, and RBs; Williams, Walker, and I'm about 75% sure at this point, Collins will be gone. There is even an outside shot of losing Hunter Henry who people consider the most complete TE and is looking like a 2nd round pick and could push to 1st round with a big year on the field.

Speaking from experience with losing all of your production at once and not running some plug and play spread system, it's a pretty crappy next year for offense.

2016 is going to be hell. I don't put that on him, but it's just the situation being Arky, in the crazy West, and losing everybody at once. I don't think he makes 9 wins this year and I'd doubt he makes 7 wins next year.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:28 pm to
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Bielema is a pretty darn good coach, I think Arkansas takes a step back this year though.


They went 2-6 and were arguably the worst SEC team other than Vandy and UK- how do they take a step back from that?
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:41 pm to
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him and the OP are trying to troll

sad really

They really need a summer camp.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:56 pm to
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worst SEC team other than Vandy and UK-


LSU, Ole Miss, (wins), Bama, Miss State, (very close losses) might not agree with you.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4399 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:30 pm to
again who is florida's coach??
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:32 pm to
Do you know who Florida hired as the new HC?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55257 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:36 pm to
Welcome back
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:40 pm to
I do know who UF hired as the new head coach and he will do much better then Bert did in his first 2 Years , even with Muschamp running the program into the ground. He'll even Muschamp did much better then Bert in his first 2 years and he sucks.

So Bert has great talent and is great at coaching up his players but he has 2 conference wins in his first 2 years.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 4:54 pm
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:43 pm to
Where did I say Petrino was a better recruiter then Bert? I said he does better with less , there is no way Bert will match Petrinos record.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:46 pm to
Bert's poop is so buoyant it could hold up a fricking ocean liner
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:48 pm to
1st round talent wins championships . I would prefer to have 5 first and second round talents to go with the 10 less talented players.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9634 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:48 pm to
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montanagator


Ninja please. Arkansas would have taken the Gators to the woodshed last year.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:53 pm to
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Where did I say Petrino was a better recruiter then Bert? I said he does better with less


I always wonder why people say this. Petrino might have had less on defense, but his defenses weren't good. On offense during 2010 and 2011 he had a 5* QB, 4* QB, multiple 4* WRs like Jarius Wright and Joe Adams, a 4* TE that won the mackey award, and a 4* RB.

He's a great offensive coach but it's not like he was out there with a bunch of 2*s

quote:

Speaking from experience with losing all of your production at once and not running some plug and play spread system, it's a pretty crappy next year for offense.


Yeah that's why it's important that we snag a big time RB in this class. Not really worried about the OL, I think it will still be good, but that is a lot to lose. A lot of the defense will be back though. A lot depends on how the new QB plays.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 4:56 pm
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:03 pm to
I was going off what the entire team did because he is the head coach but even if you compare the offenses , unless Petrino had a lot more talent then he does a lot better with less because it's not even a comparison.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19221 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:30 pm to
Petrino didn't exactly set the world on fire his first two years.

He went 5-7,2-6 his first year and 8-5,3-5 his second year.5 conference wins in the first two years.

Let's see how year three goes for Beliema before making comparisons.
Posted by knight_ryder
XTC cabaret
Member since Jan 2015
3356 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:10 pm to
The West will be loaded next year. The only guaranteed win I give Arkansas next year is over Ole Miss. And that's a long stretch.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:22 pm to
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Ninja please. Arkansas would have taken the Gators to the woodshed last year.


Ehhhhh..... I don't really think so. You couldn't beat us in our worst season in 30 years, don't really see why the next year would be much different. But hey, let's check Arkansas SEC record against Florida all-time, maybe you guys have a history of pulling upsets.

0-Eternity....huh, yeah I can see why you'd think you'd beat Florida.
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