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re: The Bielema Dilemma

Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:43 am to
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:43 am to
quote:

tjv305


You have 103 posts in not quite two months and more of them are about the hogs than I've posted about Florida in 4 1/2 years and 11+k posts.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:07 am to
Been said 100 times but you still don't get it. Most folks that are observant enough see what is going on around them.

Bielema inherited a hot mess. Period. Worse than he realized. Yes, there were some good players, but not enough and certainly not the kind to fit his philosophy.

So, he starts pretty much from scratch, knowing he had to build up the O and D lines above all else, knowing he had to recruit 'uncommon' (i.e. high character and ability) players. He has gone from having a so so O and D line in his first year to one of the top O lines (if not the top) in the SEC and country. D line is not far behind.

He knew he had to hire some outstanding assistants. With a sputter here and there, he has accomplished that. Sam Pittman and Rob Smith are two of the better assistants in the country. The others are very good as well.

Depth is still not totally where it needs to be, but we are much deeper than we have been in my recent memory.

Although the W-L numbers are the significant ones, Arkansas fans can see the building in progress. Sure, we only won two conference games last year. Two that were weren't supposed to at the end of the year. Then just made Texas look totally overmatched (which they were.)

Who knows what this season brings, but the trend has been nothing but up over the last 3 years. It's not unreasonable to expect a little improvement over last year. That would mean 8 to possibly 10 wins.

One thing for certain, Bielema has a plan, told us his plan, has worked his plan, and we are seeing results of the plan coming to fruition.

Bielema has earned his money thus far.
Posted by BarkRuffalo
Boston, MA
Member since Feb 2014
1206 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:09 am to
Bielema Dilemma is much harder to say than I imagined.

My shite contribution to this shite thread
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:20 am to
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LurkingEmbraer



All that money and he still dresses on game day like he's going to WalMart to pick up some TV dinners and RC Cola.

Bert and Arkansas were made for eachother.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:21 am to
Yeah I agree, the man has a plan, and if one comes at it from an unbiased viewpoint, it's a good one. If he keeps building that mammoth OL with the type of players he wants and needs, they will be hell to deal with in the future.

The defense, while good last year, will get better from what I can see. I will admit, I'm not following your recruiting but feel pretty confident Bret knows what he is doing and putting the right pieces in place.

I like his tough, no nonsense, smash the shite out of the opponent type football. I think you guys made the right hire and can see and understand what he is getting paid. As a Mizzou fan, I hope I am wrong and he is an utter failure..lol. However, I think he breeds success and his teams will be a force to be reckoned with.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:21 am to
He comes to the sideline to work, not to be a fashion statement on TV.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:24 am to
quote:

However, I think he breeds success and his teams will be a force to be reckoned with.


From what we are seeing, that's what we are thinking too. Time will tell though.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:28 am to
Bielema is damn good coach.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25192 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:11 am to
I'm fairly happy with where we are headed but I think most Arkansas fans will say its going to be a bumpy road getting there.

Our schedule this year looks like it was put together by someone with a personal grudge against the Hogs and I wouldn't bat an eye if we win 6-7 games this season. I also wouldn't be surprised with an 8-9 win season either.

Its a process of building the program up from where Petrino (offensive genius but he left the pantry empty) and John L. Smith left it.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:15 am to
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He is rewarded by joining the $4 million club along with Nick Saban, Les Miles, Kevin Sumlin, Steve Spurrier, Gus Malzahn, Hugh Freeze and Mark Richt.


If Kevin Sumlin is making $4mil then $4mil isn't that much.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46423 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:44 am to
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Yeah I agree, the man has a plan, and if one comes at it from an unbiased viewpoint, it's a good one. If he keeps building that mammoth OL with the type of players he wants and needs, they will be hell to deal with in the future.

The defense, while good last year, will get better from what I can see. I will admit, I'm not following your recruiting but feel pretty confident Bret knows what he is doing and putting the right pieces in place.

I like his tough, no nonsense, smash the shite out of the opponent type football. I think you guys made the right hire and can see and understand what he is getting paid. As a Mizzou fan, I hope I am wrong and he is an utter failure..lol. However, I think he breeds success and his teams will be a force to be reckoned with.

Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:55 am to
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Wal Marks money
And bert is fat


Walmart money goes to the Business college.
Tyson/Hunt/Lindsey/Old LR money goes to the athletic department.
Pretty sure the Cowboys money bought Bret.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Yeah I agree, the man has a plan, and if one comes at it from an unbiased viewpoint, it's a good one. If he keeps building that mammoth OL with the type of players he wants and needs, they will be hell to deal with in the future. The defense, while good last year, will get better from what I can see. I will admit, I'm not following your recruiting but feel pretty confident Bret knows what he is doing and putting the right pieces in place. I like his tough, no nonsense, smash the shite out of the opponent type football. I think you guys made the right hire and can see and understand what he is getting paid. As a Mizzou fan, I hope I am wrong and he is an utter failure..lol. However, I think he breeds success and his teams will be a force to be reckoned with.

+1

As an outsider, I like what I see from BB & what he's doing at Arky.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:01 am to
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He comes to the sideline to work



As a stunt double for the KoolAid man?

Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:02 am to
Bielema is a good coach and produces very tough teams.

It's laughable that an a&m fan would try to call out another school's coach for being overpaid.
Posted by Arkiebarkie
Fayetteville,Ar
Member since Jan 2013
756 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:27 am to
Arkansas has great coaching at every position. We have several 4* players starting.

4*
Hunter Henry
Denver Kirkland
Dan Skipper
Mitch Smothers
Frank Ragnow
Sebastian Tretola
Alex Collins
J. Williams
All starters on Offense

4*
Bijohn Jackson
Brooks Ellis
H. Frohodt
J. Ledbetter
All will be on defense
Bret is the best we have had in taking lesser ranked players and coaching the up.







Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:41 am to
If I was an arky fan, and had to choose between Bret and Petrino (even if he had no character issues, the key) I would pick Bret every day of the week. Petrino ran a high octane offense, but that's the only side of the ball he gave a shite about.

Bret prefers a balanced team on both sides of the ball. Petrino is pass happy like most of college and pro is today, but I'm a firm believer in a powerful, devastating running attack like Bret. He just needs to balance that offense out some so he has the ability to come back in a game if his team needs to.
Posted by knight_ryder
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Member since Jan 2015
3356 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:18 am to
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:19 am to
Is it more like 3rd tier players at best? He sure as hell doesn't have first tier player like the elite programs in the conference . You can tell from his recruiting ranking and the future drafts.
Posted by biggsc
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Member since Mar 2009
34209 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:20 am to
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