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re: The best running back in the last 20 years

Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:11 pm to
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I don't think McFadden lifted weights much.
He was pretty big, just a really unfortunate case of chicken legs.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:11 pm to
That is how pathetic the passing game was when DMAC was better than Casey Dick.
Posted by BigBro
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:13 pm to
Last 10 Years
J Taylor - 2x Doak winner

Last 20 Years
A Peterson (injuries)
or
D Mac (2x Doak)

Last 30 Years
R Williams (2x Doak)

Last 40 Years
B Sanders (GOAT)

Just my opinion.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:13 pm to
He was 6-1 and about 210 in college.
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:14 pm to
He was really good.

Not to level of Bo/Hershel, but really good.
Posted by Hellmet
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:16 pm to
McFadden belongs beside Bo and Walker, all these others are just chumps playing the game. None of them would have gotten the numbers that they got if they had to play on that Arkansas offense.

The fact is everybody knew McFadden was running it and nobody could stop him. The only thing that prevented us from winning every game was sheit QBs and a terrible passing offense.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:16 pm to
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That is how pathetic the passing game was when DMAC was better than Casey Dick.
I have vivid memories as a child thinking that we'd never be able to throw the ball because our QBs always sucked. We had a rough run at that position for a while. Even the "good" QBs we had were only athletic good, not passer good.

Petrino blew my teenaged mind.
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 5:17 pm
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 6:15 pm to
Just imagine if Petrino was the coach in those 06 and 07 seasons.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 6:33 pm to
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Just imagine if Petrino was the coach in those 06 and 07 seasons.
Oh I have. Many times. Along with fantasizing about Matt Jones being born just a few years later.

Imagine all that read-option with Matt Jones quarterbacking for McFadden, Jones, and Hillis.

I don't think the rushing records that team would have set would ever be broken.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 6:44 pm to
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Lol You are comparing Chubb's college stats to an air raid QB?


No I’m simply saying most rushing yards /ypc isn’t the only indicator of best running back.

Also anyone on here arguing McFadden never ran up the middle/ couldn’t break tackles / whatever else you have said to move the goal posts of your point since joining this conversation — doesn’t know what the frick he’s talking about.

Anyone saying McFadden only was a home run threat bc he “lined up 12 yards in the backfield” and couldn’t “be a battering ram” (whatever the frick that means) has absolutely ZERO CREDIBILITY in this discussion.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 6:46 pm to
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Also anyone on here arguing McFadden never ran up the middle/ couldn’t break tackles / whatever else you have said to move the goal posts of your point since joining this conversation — doesn’t know what the frick he’s talking about.

Anyone saying McFadden only was a home run threat bc he “lined up 12 yards in the backfield” and couldn’t “be a battering ram” (whatever the frick that means) has absolutely ZERO CREDIBILITY in this discussion.
Yeah I just stopped responding to him after he doubled down on McFadden being some kind of scat-back. Either completely ignorant or a bad troll.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 6:49 pm to
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Yeah I just stopped responding to him after he doubled down on McFadden being some kind of scat-back. Either completely ignorant or a bad troll.


Ignorance. Has no idea what he’s talking about and should stick to Georgia and stop pretending he knows anything else. His description of McFadden was utterly laughable.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 6:53 pm to
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No I’m simply saying most rushing yards /ypc isn’t the only indicator of best running back.

It isn't the only indicator.

Touches per touchdown would be another.

Yards after contact would be another.

Chubb dominates a lot of the best running back indicators.
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Anyone saying McFadden only was a home run threat bc he “lined up 12 yards in the backfield” and couldn’t “be a battering ram” (whatever the frick that means) has absolutely ZERO CREDIBILITY in this discussion.

Styles make fights.

Reggie Bush has a specific skillet.
McFadden has the exact same skillset but he is significantly better at it.

Chubb can win the corner. Burst the hole.
But he can also create his own opportunities after contact. He's in another league because he can provide multiple ways of beating down a defense.

Someone said that McFadden had a lousy line with the Raiders. And that is true. But for a guy whose highlights show him breaking through the line untouched... he needs a great blocking scheme to get upfield.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 6:55 pm to
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His description of McFadden was utterly laughable.


Arkansas fans watched more McFadden than I did.
I watched more chubb than they did.

When I pull up McFadden highlights, it highlights what I'm adding to the thread.
If you have some different highlights, share them.
I watched a few games live. And pulled up highlights today. I'm all about the film. Bring it.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 6:57 pm to
I'm going...

1. D. McFadden
2. D. Henry
3. A. Peterson
4. S. Barkley
5. C. Benson
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 7:31 pm to
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Styles make fights. Reggie Bush has a specific skillet. McFadden has the exact same skillset but he is significantly better at it.


Bush was an all purpose back who split Carries evenly with LenDale White (about 10-15/game) and would be targeted 3-5 receptions a game while lining up in the slot and at flanker. He also played on what is widely regarded as one of the greatest offenses in college football history.

McFadden was a traditional Ace back who averaged about 25 Carrie’s a game while his backup Felix Jones got about 10 Carries a game. McFadden lined up at QB in wildcat a lot and probably got 70% of the touches in that offense which is INSANE for anyone not named a QB to be that heavily involved in offensive touches. He was seldomly used in the passing attack like Bush was - how you say their skill set was the same lol. Their “skill set” and how they were utilized isn’t even remotely similar. This is a laughably bad take.


quote:

I watched a few games live. And pulled up highlights today. I'm all about the film. Bring it.


Yeah, you’ve shown everyone there’s a massive difference in “watching film” and watching YouTube highlights. There’s nothing to “bring.” Your opinion by itself defeats any validity whatsoever.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 7:47 pm to
I like Matt Jones but Arkansas really needed a QB that could make defenses honest.

Mallett or Wilson would have won an SEC title in either year.
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 7:55 pm to
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Mallett or Wilson would have won an SEC title in either year.
Easily. They're definitely better QBs.

I just like thinking about the possibility of Matt Jones having a triple option read to McFadden/Hillis up the middle with a pitch option to Felix/McFadden on the outside. I don't know how you defend that.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 7:56 pm to
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Bush was an all purpose back

They both are all purpose backs.
Bush highlights often show him hitting the edge, beating his defender untouched, and getting upfield for huge gains.

When I say they have similar skillsets, it is their running styles.
McFadden could do it many more times a game (bush was more of a gimmick). I clearly said that McFadden was much better. I also like mcfadden inside better than Bush.
quote:

how you say their skill set was the same lol.

Their highlights are the same?
Their best attributes are the same type of runs?
McFadden is better than Reggie Bush. But that doesn't mean their highlights are similar styles.
quote:

There’s nothing to “bring.”

Don't spend your time on film. I don't have a problem with that.
But don't dispute my opinion without bringing any film to back it up.
You can ignore me if you don't think I'm worth it.
Or you can balls up and prove a point (if you have a legitimate one).
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 8:13 pm to
I like that type of dream if it was an 80s offense LOL.

I would move Jones to WR. Mallett at QB and of course McFadden at RB.
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