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re: "the B1G is better than the SEC"

Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Are Ohio State, Indiana and Oregon better than SEC's Top Three? Probably.


I'm not so sure about that. The top three teams in the SEC right now are aTm, Alabama and Georgia and the fourth is Ole Miss. I've watched Ohio St, Indiana and Oregon play and I just don't see this "big separation" that Big 10 pundits, broadcasters and fans claim.

The good thing is we have the playoff and hopefully these teams can meet to see how they match up head to head.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Are Ohio State, Indiana and Oregon better than SEC's Top Three?


Indy for sure

I'm racist against oh*o, so I'll recuse myself from evaluating them.

Oregon? Eh...maybe.
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1483 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:39 pm to
It is hard to say how good is Ohio St with that schedule.

The Texas win doesn't carry a lot of weight these days. Texas turned out to be rather mediocre. Ky and Miss St took them to OT.

I am thinking Indiana may be the best of the bunch.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61613 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:41 pm to
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I mean I think we agree? If the argument was that the SEC was better back then because they were winning titles, then B1G is better now because they’re winning titles.


The B1G will need to win more than two or three or even four before they will be considered the ebst overall. I mean, in modern times no other conference has won 7 in a row...then when you consider that 4 different teams won those titles it definitely speaks to the depth of teams. Not to mention 13 out of 18 and 5 different teams winning titles...and Alabama, LSU Florida and Georgia I know won more than 1 title.

The B1G will be on their way to making a claim if Indiana can win it this year, but they will still be far removed from what the SEC did year in and year out for 18 years.

If you are taking a snapshot of one year, the B1G can stake a claim, but I think what SEC fans are talking about is a total domination over an extended period of time, not just a 1 or 2 or even a 3 year period of time.

ETA
My point is that it was more than Alabama winning titles. True, Alabama won the lions share of them, but three other teams won more than one title.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
24781 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:42 pm to
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Are Ohio State, Indiana and Oregon better than SEC's Top Three? Probably.
put A&M against OSU, Bama vs Indiana and Georgia vs Oregon and I think SEC takes 2/3. At worst those are toss ups.

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Are the bottom 10 teams in the B1G absolute garbage? Yep.
unbelievably so for being the 2nd best conference. Id take the SECs bottom 10 vs the B1G’s bottom 10 90% of the time in those matchups if we’re putting 16 v 16, 15 v 15, etc
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:43 pm to
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Now, if you can make an argument against what I just posted and not just drop a down vote and run we will have a conversation either later today or tomorrow.


Is it ok if I drop an upvote and run since you said what I was gonna say?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61613 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Is it ok if I drop an upvote and run since you said what I was gonna say?


Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6430 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Not defending, you don't defend in college because of matriculation and graduation.

I fail to see the logic in that. That is essentially free agency in professional sports. Teams sign and lose players every off season in the pros.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17467 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:52 pm to
The Big 10 was better last season. I don't think it is this season.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61613 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:58 pm to
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I mean I think we agree? If the argument was that the SEC was better back then because they were winning titles, then B1G is better now because they’re winning titles.


Sorry to respond to one post twice, but it also occurred to me that it should e easier for the B1G to equal the 7 years winning a title in a row the SEC put up, because they added the best PAC 12 teams to their league. While it is true we also added the best BIG 12 teams to our league, we had our 7 year run before league consolidation happened.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how anyone can argue that the SEC was not the most dominant league over the last 18-20 years.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25024 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Those teams were incredible because they proved it against quality teams. OSU will never have that.



2025 OSU if the end up undefeated (tons of way to go but you are comparing to undefeated champs), they will have beaten at least 5 end of year top 10 teams, which is more than either 2019 LSU or 2020 Bama.

It's easier to get into the playoff now, but harder to win as there are more good teams (except when OSU did it last year apparently to this guy)
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25024 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:10 pm to
With 2020 vision it doesn't look good but OSU literally had games against the #1 and #2 preseason AP poll teams, and road games against preseason #9 and preseason #14.

4 top 15 games. Texas and PSU are not performing up to expectations so that diminishes the schedule. Ill. is also just a good team so they will be like 8-4.

OSU scheduled the #1 preseason team in the non-conference and somehow people are complaining about their schedule
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21838 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:13 pm to
To be fair, that started as a shite schedule and shaped up to be a shittier one.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16011 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:15 pm to
The team is the players and the players are different
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30680 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:17 pm to
The top 5 teams in the SEC would do the same with that schedule.

And if LSU played that schedule, Brian Kelly wouldn't be on the hot seat at all much less getting fired like he did.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125466 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:18 pm to
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It’s almost like those teams lost to other conference teams. Crazy how that works


Hot retard shite take.

Indiana’s in-conference schedule will include teams currently ranked 3,4,11,12,13,14, 15,16, 17, and 18 in the conference.

Really, the issue isn’t the weakness of the Big 10. But the unbalanced schedule.

Also, Indiana’s out of conference schedule was Old Dominion, Kennesaw State and Indiana State.

So they face a weak in conference schedule and out of conference schedule.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25024 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:27 pm to
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The top 5 teams in the SEC would do the same with that schedule.



Oh and here we are with the old reliable "Of course I can't prove it but it sounds good" take.

A&M is the #1 team in the SEC right now and almost lost to Arkansas and beat Auburn by 6 at home. Bama almost lost to a 3-4 South Carolina team. Bama did lose to a 3-4 FSU team who is potentially the worst team in the ACC.

Create whatever narrative you want but if those are the top 2 teams in the SEC, which they are in every ranking, you can't guarantee they would beat anyone
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2294 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:40 pm to
OSU has played 1 top 25 team. Why should people be impressed with that?

No schedule=no respect.

BIG 10 is the ultimate snoozefess.
Posted by BigOrangeKen
Union City
Member since Oct 2015
3893 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:53 pm to
They have 3 good teams everyone else sucks same as always
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25024 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:59 pm to
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OSU has played 1 top 25 team. Why should people be impressed with that?



And Bama lost by 2 touchdowns to a team who hasn't won an ACC game in 2 seasons. Why should people be impressed by that?

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