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The 5-4, 4-5 conference record dilemma
Posted on 8/21/26 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 8/21/26 at 2:08 pm
That is what will happen if the SEC takes in teams that fans here seem to be sold on to make the league more competitive. That is a "be careful what you wish for" situation. That would work in a 2-conference championship between the SEC and the B1G but not with the current set up. The ACC and Big 12 will get extra slots in that case. The way things are set up now it also means that for every team that goes 9-0, 8-1 or 7-2 there has to be teams that finish 0-9,1-8 or 2-7. There will always be disappointed fan bases and coaches on the hot seat because the day of dominance ended with the NIL. I can see 1 or 2 teams having 2 years of great records in the win/loss column but not sustained by any means. That is why I would support a 2-league breakaway with the SEC and B1G holding a championship apart from the others. The NIL created a mess that can't be fixed any other way. I could be wrong, but the lawsuits just keep coming.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 2:48 pm to flagshipuniversity
I do think the 9 game rotating schedule makes it to where we don't have to worry about a 2 loss SEC team being left out again like Vandy was. It makes things tougher though. The Big 10 gets a break right now on their 9 game schedules because the bottom half is definitely not on par with the bottom half of the SEC. A 9-3 SEC team should definitely go over Big 12 and ACC teams that are 10-2 in most cases imo.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:22 pm to Gator Fever
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A 9-3 SEC team should definitely go over Big 12 and ACC teams that are 10-2 in most cases imo.
this is garbage...and I don't think the rest of college football responds well to letting a 9-3 team in even with a stronger SOS.
Would this have put Texas in over Miami last year? If so, its retarded
Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:31 pm to Gator Fever
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A 9-3 SEC team should definitely go over Big 12 and ACC teams that are 10-2 in most cases imo.
I don’t think any 9-3 team should make a 12 team playoff. Talk about rewarding mediocrity
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:45 pm to EV
Miami lost 2 games it had no business losing with a weak schedule and was let in because the ACC had no other team in. Just because that defense dominated in the playoff doesn't change what Miami's regular season was.
Yep let's just let any 11-1 ACC or Big 12 team non-champs in over 10-2 SEC teams with that thinking.
Yep let's just let any 11-1 ACC or Big 12 team non-champs in over 10-2 SEC teams with that thinking.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:58 pm to EV
The massive difference in a team playing a top 5 schedule vs a team playing a middle of the ncaa 50ish schedule is massive yet all the cfp focuses on is W-L. Look at Indianas schedule this year it’s a joke
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:58 pm to ronricks
Yes we reward and 11-1 team that played no one all year?
Posted on 8/22/26 at 2:07 pm to TexasWranglers
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Yes we reward and 11-1 team that played no one all year?
You have to beat the teams you play. Anyone scheduling a murderers row out of conference in this era are morons. It no longer matters in a 12 team playoff. If you can’t win 10 games in a 12 game season you don’t deserve to be in a playoff. Period.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 2:10 pm to flagshipuniversity
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The 5-4, 4-5 conference record dilemma
That is what will happen if the SEC takes in teams that fans here seem to be sold on to make the league more competitive.
You just describe the barn this entire decade.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 2:12 pm to Gator Fever
The difference is that the SEC is required to play 10 P4 opponents and the B1G only has to play 9 P4 opponents. Add to that the bottom of the SEC being much better than the bottom of the B1G and B1G teams get about 6 creampuff games and we get 2.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 4:02 pm to ronricks
These games are scheduled years in advance. I agree your a moron if you schedule tough OOC games since the committee lied to us that SOS would matter.
Completely disagree you have to win 10 to make the cfp though, every year teams from the ACC and big12 will steal bids due to this nonsense. Same for notre dame and a G5.
Completely disagree you have to win 10 to make the cfp though, every year teams from the ACC and big12 will steal bids due to this nonsense. Same for notre dame and a G5.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 4:37 pm to Gator Fever
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Yep let's just let any 11-1 ACC or Big 12 team non-champs in over 10-2 SEC teams with that thinking.
That's not what I'm saying...10-2 SEC teams usually make the playoff.
9-3 is pressing it, and I think most college football fans (or the committee) don't support 9-3 teams making the playoff. It's not impossible, but I think you would need alot of help
Posted on 8/22/26 at 4:39 pm to TexasWranglers
SOS doesn't equate to how good a team is...
So, yes, you put that 11-1 team in and let them play it out on the field
So, yes, you put that 11-1 team in and let them play it out on the field
Posted on 8/22/26 at 4:40 pm to TexasWranglers
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These games are scheduled years in advance. I agree your a moron if you schedule tough OOC games since the committee lied to us that SOS would matter.
Completely disagree you have to win 10 to make the cfp though, every year teams from the ACC and big12 will steal bids due to this nonsense. Same for notre dame and a G5.
G6 schools get an autobid
I really don't know what ACC and Big XII schools have "stolen bids"
Schools are already canceling OOC games...the sport is changing in that regards
Posted on 8/22/26 at 4:45 pm to Landmass
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The difference is that the SEC is required to play 10 P4 opponents and the B1G only has to play 9 P4 opponents. Add to that the bottom of the SEC being much better than the bottom of the B1G and B1G teams get about 6 creampuff games and we get 2.
why are SEC teams required to do that? Why did yall switch to a 9 game conference schedule? The rest of college football is supposed to bend around whatever the SEC is doing? I agree the SOS is much stronger, but you can only push that argument so far...especially when you're getting the most teams in the playoff every year anyways.
And please, the bottom of the SEC is hot garbage. It's the mid-level muscle where the SEC surpasses everyone else
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:23 pm to EV
G6 and nd don’t deserve an auto bid. Winning a conference like the big 12 and ACC is a joke. SMu didn’t belong two years ago and it showed immediately. These schools that played nobodies OOC should be rewarded for going 11-1 or 10-2 with a 50 SOS
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:24 pm to EV
It should be a serious factor if two teams are within a win. It’s not the only factor but if it’s close it should be weighted heavier
Posted on 8/22/26 at 8:00 pm to flagshipuniversity
Posting this for argument sake only, don’t agree those top 3 B10 teams better than top 3 SEC teams bit thats another argument for another thread/day
What I want to point out is teams 4 thru 16. Every 4-16 SEC team is ranked higher than B10 4-16 teams and by a lot.
Now imagine those top 3 B10 playing the 4-16 (4-18 in their conf) and how much less wear and tear it takes out over a season. Their creampuff schedules allow them to focus on the few big games they have plus be better health wise for playoffs and bowls.
And lets add in the B10 has 2 extra really shitty teams for their top 3 to schedule compared to SEC.
And don’t even look at those other 2 conferences and how gawd awful they are.
This is why I keep saying our commish was stupid to add a 9th game. He got suckered in by the B10 who has no problems with 9 because they have creampuffs built in.
SEC will go 8-8 when if they didn’t add a 9th you go 14-2 to 16-0. Caveat is with 8 it allowed SEC to schedule a good OOC game if they chose to and the historical good teams did.
I can’t wait for this chart to be updated as season goes on. PEAR is great for baseball rankings and stuff but is newer at football and their formula needs some tweaks. But still, for the chart to show 13 SEC teams higher than every B10 4 thru 16 team is enlightening.
What I want to point out is teams 4 thru 16. Every 4-16 SEC team is ranked higher than B10 4-16 teams and by a lot.
Now imagine those top 3 B10 playing the 4-16 (4-18 in their conf) and how much less wear and tear it takes out over a season. Their creampuff schedules allow them to focus on the few big games they have plus be better health wise for playoffs and bowls.
And lets add in the B10 has 2 extra really shitty teams for their top 3 to schedule compared to SEC.
And don’t even look at those other 2 conferences and how gawd awful they are.
This is why I keep saying our commish was stupid to add a 9th game. He got suckered in by the B10 who has no problems with 9 because they have creampuffs built in.
SEC will go 8-8 when if they didn’t add a 9th you go 14-2 to 16-0. Caveat is with 8 it allowed SEC to schedule a good OOC game if they chose to and the historical good teams did.
I can’t wait for this chart to be updated as season goes on. PEAR is great for baseball rankings and stuff but is newer at football and their formula needs some tweaks. But still, for the chart to show 13 SEC teams higher than every B10 4 thru 16 team is enlightening.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 8:08 pm to OU Guy
Big 10 says those power rankings are biased and Illinois. Nebraska and Wisconsin etc are as good as those SEC teams above them.
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:38 pm to TexasWranglers
SMU didn't belong why? Because they got blown out?
So did Tennessee and Indiana (in 2024).
You're going to get blowouts in games. If you want 9-3 SEC teams in the playoff, simply expand the field. But from some of the comments on this thread, you would think the Big 10, ACC, and Big XII are getting More teams in than the SEC lol.
The SEC has gotten MORE teams in than any other conference, why the whining?
So did Tennessee and Indiana (in 2024).
You're going to get blowouts in games. If you want 9-3 SEC teams in the playoff, simply expand the field. But from some of the comments on this thread, you would think the Big 10, ACC, and Big XII are getting More teams in than the SEC lol.
The SEC has gotten MORE teams in than any other conference, why the whining?
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