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re: The 4th down overturn for Bowers. Right call?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:12 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:12 am to WG_Dawg
But is it the spirit of airborne and of the rule? It is a very unique play and one that was certainly never anticipated. Also, he wasn't 'diving for the marker?' Is that determination one that they were able to make beyond all doubt (The threshold to overturn the call on the field). Or did they never consider the rule? I really would like the Refs to be held accountable to answering these questions and the decisions added to the decisions book.. This happens far to often with no accountability.
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:16 am to bgill0
Bowers broke the rule book by keeping one hand in bounds while the rest of him was airborne.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:20 am to Eli Goldfinger
The replay official said it was a first down. His opinion is the only one that counts.
I thought ESPN's on-air rules guy went through the reason the first down call was good.
I thought ESPN's on-air rules guy went through the reason the first down call was good.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:32 am to bgill0
The rules on just about everything in football are too complicated now. Of that much I'm certain.
If they just wanted to mark the ball at its last point where the ball carrier was in contact with the turf, in bounds, it would be fine by me.
If they just wanted to mark the ball at its last point where the ball carrier was in contact with the turf, in bounds, it would be fine by me.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:34 am to bunkerhill
I watched the 4th quarter again last night from the OSU hometown call and the OSU radio guys both said the overturn was correct in their eyes also. The Bowers catch and Kirby T.O. neither had any issues at the time.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:38 am to bigdawg7780
Well, if you have noticed, sometime in the last 10 years or so. Color commentators have quit questioning calls. I tried to watch the play again on my recording, but there was no commentary. The play itself, you can't tell for certain either way, which is why I think they can't overturn it.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:51 am to bgill0
I honestly didn't know what the rule was, but it seemed like the right call as it was explained. Crazy that he made it, because in real time it looked like there was no way he made it.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:04 pm to bunkerhill
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The replay official said it was a first down. His opinion is the only one that counts. I thought ESPN's on-air rules guy went through the reason the first down call was good.
Yeah, but a guy on an internet message board insists emphatically that it wasn't a first down. Our potential championship is tainted.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:22 pm to Knowshon5Dolla
My only problems with this call are "irrefutable evidence" and the super imposed line. If you have to superimpose a line to try to make a determination you are going a step too far in review IMO. Additionally, there is no definitive view that shows when the ball crossed the sideline plane as he went out of bounds. I don't see a way they can determine exactly where the ball crossed without a direct overhead view.
Not sour grapes at all. JMO.
Not sour grapes at all. JMO.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:27 pm to VABuckeye
It may have been a superimposed line, but it was still where the first down marker actually was. They didn't just make up the line to gain.
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:32 pm to Funky Tide 8
So where is the image that shows where the ball crossed the line? Just discussion. Not trying to pick a fight.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:36 pm to VABuckeye
It doesn’t matter where the ball was when it crossed the plane as long as Bowers was still inbounds. It just matters where the ball is when bowers becomes OOB.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:41 pm to PassingThrough
That's not correct. Here is the full interpretation of the rule with examples and the exception that seems to apply in this case. Forward progress is all about where the ball crosses the line, not the player. It's a link due to the formatting not transferring correctly.
Forward progress for ball carrier going out of bounds.
Forward progress for ball carrier going out of bounds.
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:43 pm to VABuckeye
not clicking that shite link 
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:46 pm to theRealJesseD
Good Gawd ... that went from "just talking" to "your honor, here is Exhibit A that proves the BuckNuts got fricked on that call" fairly quickly.
Somewhere, a horse weeps silently, painfully. As it gets beat to death.
Somewhere, a horse weeps silently, painfully. As it gets beat to death.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:46 pm to theRealJesseD
The link is official college football rules interpretations with examples. 
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:48 pm to ScoggDog
It may have been the correct call. However it did lack what the rules state is necessary to overturn a play. If you don't get that replay officials time and time again have taken too much leeway in determining calls I don't know what to tell you.
Or you can be a lemming and believe they're right 100% of the time.
Or you can be a lemming and believe they're right 100% of the time.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:49 pm to VABuckeye
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Or you can be a lemming and believe they're right 100% of the time.
Whenever the call upsets Ohio State, it is right 100% of the time. That's just math. Look it up.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:01 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Yes and perfect camera work. A regular season game and it probably isn't overturned, but they had perfect line of sight. .
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