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re: The 4th down overturn for Bowers. Right call?

Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by Atlbear16
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2017
1453 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:23 pm to
I actually disagree with the ball being placed at the most forward spot while out of bounds.

They place it at the most forward spot IN BOUNDS before it crosses the OOB plane
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41444 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:34 pm to
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I actually disagree with the ball being placed at the most forward spot while out of bounds.


Disagree that it IS the rule, or disagree with the rule?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41444 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:36 pm to
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What if bowers threw the ball backwards out of bounds as he was going out and the ball ends up somewhere on the sidelines? Where is it spotted?


Thats essentially a fumble, so where it went out of bounds.
Posted by Deacon Reds
Member since Feb 2018
924 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:45 pm to
I’m not sure how to even respond to that gibberish.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 7:46 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:47 pm to
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I’m not sure how to even respond to that gibberish.


This doesn't surprise me at all.
Posted by Atlbear16
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2017
1453 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:50 pm to
I disagree that the ball is placed at the most forward spot when the player has possession of the ball in the field of play and then outside of the field of play (aka when it crosses over into the OOB plane).

I’ll agree that ball is placed at the most forward spot IN BOUNDS before player crosses outside the field of play when player has created possession while ball is in the field of play
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 7:53 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41444 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:53 pm to
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disagree that the ball is placed at the most forward spot when the player has possession of the ball in the field of play and then outside of the field of play (aka when it crosses over into the OOB plane).


Is it the rule or not to do that?
Posted by GADAWG2017
Yulee, Florida
Member since Jul 2017
672 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:54 pm to
So if a receiver catches the ball while falling out of bounds by planting both feet in bounds, then that results in an incomplete pass due to the ball being out of bounds??? Some of you haven’t either played or watched football very much!
Posted by Atlbear16
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2017
1453 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:55 pm to
I believe the ref marks the ball at the most forward point before the ball crosses the OOB plane if player creates possession of ball in the field of play.
Posted by Atlbear16
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2017
1453 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:57 pm to
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So if a receiver catches the ball while falling out of bounds by planting both feet in bounds, then that results in an incomplete pass due to the ball being out of bounds??? Some of you haven’t either played or watched football very much!


In this case, where is the ball spotted?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:03 pm to
Yep.

Bowers is a gotdamn freak!
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:03 pm to
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So if a receiver catches the ball while falling out of bounds by planting both feet in bounds, then that results in an incomplete pass due to the ball being out of bounds??? Some of you haven’t either played or watched football very much!


Bowers didn't have both feet planted when he went out. That's the discussion.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:04 pm to
At the spot that the player went OOB w/possession.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41444 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:10 pm to
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I believe the ref marks the ball at the most forward point before the ball crosses the OOB plane if player creates possession of ball in the field of play.


But isnt that NOT the rule?
Posted by GADAWG2017
Yulee, Florida
Member since Jul 2017
672 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:11 pm to
It’s spotted at the location the ball is at the point that the receiver steps out. And YES if he manages to tip toe up field without stepping out, the spot is where the ball is even if it’s out of bounds. You’re interpretation of this rule is wrong.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:24 pm to
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It’s spotted at the location the ball is at the point that the receiver steps out.


Not when they are airborne.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
21884 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:27 pm to
Bowers transcends physics, limits of any kind, and the puny rules of football.

All of you are wasting your time. It was a first down because Bowers willed it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Deal. with. it.


Because you must.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:38 pm to
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At the spot that the player went OOB w/possession.



No. I quoted the NCAA official rules interpretation several pages back. It’s the spot where the BALL not the player crosses the line. It’s why runners reach the ball out at the line ahead when they run out of bounds.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:39 pm to
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Not when they are airborne.


Yes it is. Read the official interpretation of the rule.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Yes it is. Read the official interpretation of the rule.



If they are airborne the ball is not spotted where the ball is when they touch out of bounds. It is spotted where the ball crosses the sideline.
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