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re: Texas A&M - I don't get this recruiting class
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:29 am to Hugh McElroy
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:29 am to Hugh McElroy
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:29 am to TeLeFaWx
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Some programs are capable of a number one class. Some aren’t. A&M is. Ole Miss isn’t. There isn’t anything more you need to know.
Sorry, I looked up expecting to see A&M but all I see is Bama. Where you at?
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:29 am to REBEL5 AC
Come on an official (or unofficial) visit.
You’ll understand.
Most importantly: Don’t believe everything you read on this board.
I’d answer your question, but it’d be a wall of text to rival that “fence” of brick and stone in China.
You’ll understand.
Most importantly: Don’t believe everything you read on this board.
I’d answer your question, but it’d be a wall of text to rival that “fence” of brick and stone in China.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:30 am to Hugh McElroy
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1. A&M has an elite gameday environment: This is confirmed again and again and again by opposing coaches, opposing players, visiting fans, and recruits.
I thought it was pretty boring the two times I have been.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:31 am to EKG
Fair enough
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:31 am to REBEL5 AC
I swear, you people act like A&M came out of nowhere to haul in this class. Yeah, it’s an amazing collection, but it’s not like Jimbo has been a recruiting failure here. His lowest class (in a full year) was #8.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 10:49 am
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:32 am to tiggerthetooth
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Jimbo was recruiting well before this, but NIL has allowed them to add 4-5 really good players that they never would have contended with before. The guys that would be all Bama are now going to A&M.
Was the reason based on the reputations of the school and nothing else? So now money really means something right?
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:33 am to REBEL5 AC
It's a perfect storm.
First off as much as folks here don't like to talk about it A&M is the biggest school in the SEC, is a fantastic school academically, has the largest stadium with an amazing environment, and is in a great location. A&M has been investing BIG in facilities and pretty much everything related to football since joining the SEC, they are certainly equal to anyone. They also refined the recruiting process and experience for players to a science and have unlimited budget for it.
A&M went to the Orange Bowl and finished #4 the prior year which got most of these guys interested originally.
This is a ridiculous year for talent in Texas and especially the Houston area. In the end most kids would rather be an hour from home rather than having to fly to school.
A&M got a few big early commits including Bobby Taylor who turned into the best recruiter Jimbo could ask for, he's been recruiting harder than our coaches.
Last Summer we had a BBQ/Pool Party where we got 10 of these guys on campus, most of which had not seriously considered A&M prior, and it was a huge hit.
A&M had a disappointing season overall but from a recruits perspective all 4 of our losses were winnable games that one or two players could have made the difference, especially better QB play.
We managed to put all our chips in the middle for the Bama game and got some big guys to come, especially Nolen who we were on the outside looking in. Literally was the best recruiting event you can imagine for obvious reasons and it turned the tide (unintentional pun).
We followed up the Bama game with huge recruiting weekends for Auburn and South Carolina that also had great environments.
LSU had a bad season and coaching change. Texas had a terrible season. OU had a complete disaster with the Riley fiasco. That left A&M with really just Bama and UGA to compete with for a lot of recruits and A&M beat Bama and had momentum. A&M all of a sudden became the cool new choice.
I'm also sure we are throwing around NIL money as much as any other big boy school. I find it almost humorous though when folks act like A&M is spending more than Bama or UGA or Texas or LSU or Ohio State and that's why recruits are coming there there though. A 5 Star is going to get paid anywhere they go. Maybe A&M offered more, maybe not, it's just not likely the factor most think.
Of course I'm guessing most of the responses will be about $$$$ or Milkmen or something.
First off as much as folks here don't like to talk about it A&M is the biggest school in the SEC, is a fantastic school academically, has the largest stadium with an amazing environment, and is in a great location. A&M has been investing BIG in facilities and pretty much everything related to football since joining the SEC, they are certainly equal to anyone. They also refined the recruiting process and experience for players to a science and have unlimited budget for it.
A&M went to the Orange Bowl and finished #4 the prior year which got most of these guys interested originally.
This is a ridiculous year for talent in Texas and especially the Houston area. In the end most kids would rather be an hour from home rather than having to fly to school.
A&M got a few big early commits including Bobby Taylor who turned into the best recruiter Jimbo could ask for, he's been recruiting harder than our coaches.
Last Summer we had a BBQ/Pool Party where we got 10 of these guys on campus, most of which had not seriously considered A&M prior, and it was a huge hit.
A&M had a disappointing season overall but from a recruits perspective all 4 of our losses were winnable games that one or two players could have made the difference, especially better QB play.
We managed to put all our chips in the middle for the Bama game and got some big guys to come, especially Nolen who we were on the outside looking in. Literally was the best recruiting event you can imagine for obvious reasons and it turned the tide (unintentional pun).
We followed up the Bama game with huge recruiting weekends for Auburn and South Carolina that also had great environments.
LSU had a bad season and coaching change. Texas had a terrible season. OU had a complete disaster with the Riley fiasco. That left A&M with really just Bama and UGA to compete with for a lot of recruits and A&M beat Bama and had momentum. A&M all of a sudden became the cool new choice.
I'm also sure we are throwing around NIL money as much as any other big boy school. I find it almost humorous though when folks act like A&M is spending more than Bama or UGA or Texas or LSU or Ohio State and that's why recruits are coming there there though. A 5 Star is going to get paid anywhere they go. Maybe A&M offered more, maybe not, it's just not likely the factor most think.
Of course I'm guessing most of the responses will be about $$$$ or Milkmen or something.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:33 am to Ag Zwin
This class is on an absolute other level though.
Again, it was an honest question. I don't keep up with recruiting as much as I used to, so was interested to see how y'all put this class together
Again, it was an honest question. I don't keep up with recruiting as much as I used to, so was interested to see how y'all put this class together
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:35 am to aggressor
Nice. Appreciate the post.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:36 am to REBEL5 AC
It is just money they have to offer. It’s a pro league now.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:41 am to TeLeFaWx
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Some programs are capable of a number one class. Some aren’t. A&M is. Ole Miss isn’t. There isn’t anything more you need to know.
Some people are capable of winning 10 games in the SEC, some are not. Ole Miss is capable of 10 wins, A&M is not. A&M will continue to be 7-9 win a year team, just like they did after the 2019 recruiting class. Ole Miss is winning 10 games a year without overpaying their coach or having these top 5 recruiting classes. A&M’s season gets worse after recruiting classes are signed and actual football starts.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 9:41 am
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:41 am to ThaiTiger24
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This is where NIL comes into play - it can make shitty programs with lots of money suddenly relevant
This. There's no way in hell an underachieving Fisher and A&M put this class together without the NIL. They figured it
out and are exploiting it while they can. College Station is middle of the pack to bottom third in terms of SEC cities. Certainly middle of the pack as a program. Anyone with a functioning brain knows that this is unprecedented for most programs let alone A&M and it stinks like a bag of dog shite.
$$$$$$
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:41 am to tiggerthetooth
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The guys that would be all Bama are now going to A&M.
As it should be. A&M has more to offer as far as a network after school. And they are proving that by using that very same network to donate money through deals now. They see an Aggie network step up for them and commit to them beyond football.
Aggies hire Aggies. And now with NIL we will pay our players more than you can.
You will eventually lose. It’s just a matter of time.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:44 am to Hugh McElroy
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one of the most successful coach in the game
9-4
8-5
9-1
8-4
SEC West
T-2nd
4th
2nd
T-3rd
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:45 am to BigSneezy
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As it should be. A&M has more to offer as far as a network after school. And they are proving that by using that very same network to donate money through deals now. They see an Aggie network step up for them and commit to them beyond football.
Aggies hire Aggies
This is a homer point of view. Most 18 year old kids, and top tier athletes especially, don't give a shite about any of that.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:47 am to REBEL5 AC
It's not about anything BUT the money.That's why half of their class will bolt for the portal after their first year if they don't start immediately. They're only loyal to the money, not aggot athletics.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:51 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Some programs are capable of a number one class. Some aren’t. A&M is. Ole Miss isn’t. There isn’t anything more you need to know.
Some people are capable of winning 10 games in the SEC, some are not. Ole Miss is capable of 10 wins, A&M is not. A&M will continue to be 7-9 win a year team, just like they did after the 2019 recruiting class. Ole Miss is winning 10 games a year without overpaying their coach or having these top 5 recruiting classes. A&M’s season gets worse after recruiting classes are signed and actual football starts.
A&M went 9-1 in 2020 with an All SEC schedule plus a NY6 Win. Acting like that wasn't the equivalent of winning 10 games is just moronic or self delusional.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:52 am to Hugh McElroy
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What’s hard to understand?
You have sucked for like ever, that is why it is hard to understand.
Take this from a Texan, that has lived here since the 80s. The Aggies have always been a fricking joke and 2nd tier to Texas.
Is that clear enough for you???
Posted on 12/19/21 at 9:54 am to Hogfan13
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I remember asking the same thing when Freeze and Ole Miss cheated so hard to pull in that class with Treadwell, Nkemdiche, and Tunsil.
Of course, this is a different situation.
Back then, it was a rhetorical question. We all knew Ole Miss was cheating, bc they legit had 0 to offer. And it took a few years, but it finally all came out and proved us all right.
Yeah but Ole Miss could offer and deliver more than 8 wins in a season…
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