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re: Tennessee needed help from the refs and got lucky in 1998.

Posted on 7/28/26 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 12:02 pm to
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Wasn’t FSU playing their 3rd string QB?




FSU's starter - Weinke - played in 10 games and was 145-286 (50.7%)
Marcus Outzen - played in 12 games and was 36-60 (60%)

No other FSU quarterback had more than 2 completions for the season, so if he was 3rd string...I'm not sure who they were saying 2nd string was.

Before playing Tennessee, Outzen was:

11-19 (57.9%) against Wake Forest
13-22 (59.1%) against Florida (yep...he started and played the entire game in their win over #4 Florida). The only 2 teams to beat that Florida team were Tennessee and Florida State (with Outzen...not Weinke).



Posted by Shamoan
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 12:03 pm to
yep. just checked. it was 1999 when mississippi state had the nation's # 1 defense (#1 in total and # 1 in rushing)...again in 2018 as well.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 12:04 pm to
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yep. just checked. it was 1999 when Mississippi state had the nation's # 1 defense (#1 in total and # 1 in rushing)...again in 2018 as well.




But they were still a dominating defense in 98, too. Just nothing like they were in that '99 team.

...ETA...'99 was when Fred Smoot transferred in. I loved watching him play.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Rrrrroger
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 1:43 pm to
This used to be a proper message board.


Now it’s the same rehashed trolls posted by the same bottom tier forgettable posters every year like clockwork.
Posted by LSU in the Boro
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:08 pm to
Don't forget the Arkansas and Syracuse games. Both should have been L's.
Posted by Uga Alum
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:13 pm to
You sound mentally weak.
Posted by Rrrrroger
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:23 pm to
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You sound mentally weak

You are rehashing the same stale threads that a million dullards before you have already posted
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 3:36 pm to
UGA needed a world war to win their first one
Posted by Mo Debumly
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 5:34 pm to
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Uga Alum

This dumb son of a bitch claims to be a lawyer.

Can you imagine this clown representing you in a court of law?
Posted by UFFan
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:20 pm to
You are a terrible poster.

You don’t even mention the Syracuse game, which is the actual game where Tennessee benefited from red ball. I’ve never seen a dumber PI call in my life.
Posted by Uga Alum
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:28 pm to
I see all my usual fans have assembled. You all seem to have such happy lives.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:35 pm to
They say third string bc Chris wrinkles was a freshman, he became the starter when the 1st string qb was injured before the season even began.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:42 pm to
The Florida game was all fsu D(which was incredible that year) and Peter warrick. Peter warrick took a routine drag route into a 50 something yard house call. He also had to throw a 50 yard td pass(trick play) bc the offense was severely hampered during the uf game.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:08 pm to
I recognize the name Stoerner.

He is the QB in the movie with the fat walk on lineman that got killed.

What a weird ending to Arkansas's season
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:15 pm to
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Tennessee won 4 top 10 match-ups that year


Let's not try to add make-up to a pig here. You played and beat two teams that finished in the Top 10: Florida and Florida State. Pretty standard stuff. Although 1998 Tennessee is hurt by the fact that the latter Top 10 team they beat was without their starting QB.

quote:

In 1979, Bama didn't even beat a top 5 team all year


And 1979 Alabama would be among the weakest national champions if they had played in the modern era. However, the fact that they won the national championship the year before with a schedule that featured OOC games against Nebraska, Missouri, USC, Washington, and Virginia Tech, I think they earned the weaker schedule in '79.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 9:29 pm
Posted by VFL67
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:36 pm to
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Pretty standard stuff. Although 1998 Tennessee is hurt by the fact that the latter Top 10 team they beat was without their starting QB.

And Tennessee was missing their starting RB. Bama fans crying about injuries is the ultimate irony considering the favorable treatment they have been given for decades

6 Bama natty teams spanning 3 coaches were given easier routes to a natty than Tennessee was. Not called the cheating tide for nothing
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 9:38 pm
Posted by CaptainCrash
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:02 pm to
Lived in TN in 1998 and they got more than their share of breaks. First game of the year at Syracuse, got a phantom PI call from the SEC crew late 4Q that kept a drive alive and then won 34-33 on a FG at the gun. Beat Auburn 17-9 and one TD was a 90 yd fumble return by a DT, a 10-14 point swing. Beat FL in OT when FL missed a very makeable FG. Before the Stoerner fumble, Ark called a perfect TE throwback that was wide open and would have likely sealed the deal but pass was dropped. As others mention, FSU had to play Outzen. Football gods smiled on them all year.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 3:08 am to
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And Tennessee was missing their starting RB.


This is true. However, Tennessee lost Jamal Lewis relatively early on in the season, whereas Chris Weinke went down in November. He started in 10 of FSU's 13 games that year. Weinke would go on to lead Florida State to a national championship the very next year and won the Heisman Trophy in his senior season. They obviously missed him.

Meanwhile, Jamal Lewis would have his best days in the NFL. The highest accolades he received in college was 2nd Team All-SEC in both 1997 and 1999. His replacement, Travis Henry, finished 1st Team All-SEC in 2000 and left Knoxville as Tennessee's all-time rushing leader. So let's not act like Henry was a significant downgrade from Lewis in 1998.
This post was edited on 7/29/26 at 3:19 am
Posted by UTK
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 3:54 am to
So, that Mississippi State team (yes, that team) played rather than your team. Ooof
This post was edited on 7/29/26 at 4:02 am
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/29/26 at 6:21 am to
Tennessee hasn’t won a natty or SEC Championship since 1998. Ooof.
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