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Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:14 pm to volfan30
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:14 pm to volfan30
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Blackburn told Kiffin specifically to stop making calls and not to make off-campus trips outside the rules and Kiffin did it anyway.
So is this an example of an institution that lacks the ability to control it's own coaches? If Kiffin "did it anyway", then why the hell wasn's he fired?
BTW, IMO Pearl has been punished enough by UT. He held a freaking BBQ - he knew it was a secondary and lied about it to try to coverup... He's been docked pay and suspended from coaching his team for 8 games, IMO that's enough.
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Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:17 pm to ohiovol
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I've never lied to the governing body of my profession about rules I've broken, that's for sure.
But you are a liar though right?
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:18 pm to CarrytheFight
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Other fans hated Kiffin because he talked trash. Period. You had nothing on him other than that.
That's pretty much it. He acted like a pissy-arse, spoiled rotten brat and was very unprofessional. He allowed his asst coaches to act the same way - Ed and the Wild Boyz with their shirts off....
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:19 pm to CarrytheFight
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But you are a liar though right?
I've lied before. Fortunately, I've never been stupid enough for my lies to get a major program in trouble. I guess I'm lucky that way.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:20 pm to RT1941
quote:Agreed, but that's not how the NCAA will see it.
BTW, IMO Pearl has been punished enough by UT. He held a freaking BBQ - he knew it was a secondary and lied about it to try to coverup... He's been docked pay and suspended from coaching his team for 8 games, IMO that's enough.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:20 pm to ohiovol
re: Tennessee Allegations Released (Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:18 p.m. to CarrytheFight)
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Other fans hated Kiffin because he talked trash. Period. You had nothing on him other than that.
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re: Tennessee Allegations Released (Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:18 p.m. to CarrytheFight)
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Other fans hated Kiffin because he talked trash. Period. You had nothing on him other than that.
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professional- "I am not going to Alabama"
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Other fans hated Kiffin because he talked trash. Period. You had nothing on him other than that.
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re: Tennessee Allegations Released (Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:18 p.m. to CarrytheFight)
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Other fans hated Kiffin because he talked trash. Period. You had nothing on him other than that.
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That's pretty much it. He acted like a pissy-arse, spoiled rotten brat and was very unprofessional. He allowed his asst coaches to act the same way - Ed and the Wild Boyz with their shirts off....
professional- "I am not going to Alabama"
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:22 pm to ohiovol
All I have to say is
@Kiffin 
@Kiffin This post was edited on 2/23/11 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:24 pm to CarrytheFight
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Other fans hated Kiffin because he talked trash. Period. You had nothing on him other than that.
well there was the lack of qualifications thing
his primary claim to fame was being groused about and disparaged by the crypt keeper shortly before Tenn hired him
Seeing as UT is a major program with some standing.... hiring a guy with little in the way of credentials was kinda shocking to me
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:29 pm to molsusports
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Seeing as UT is a major program with some standing.... hiring a guy with little in the way of credentials was kinda shocking to me
I thought then and still think now that Kiffin is a good coach. Having said that, he's thumbed his nose at those in authority way too much and has attracted too much of the wrong attention. I seriously doubt that anything he does or has done is any more severe than what is occurring at any program around the country. But the NCAA wants to show him who's boss.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:33 pm to GoBigOrange86
Kiffin has done nothing to show he's a good coach. He's proven he is an excellent recruiter, but not a good coach.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:34 pm to molsusports
Kiffen was a known quantity when Tenn hired him.
He is the CFB equivalent of a GRIFTER.
He lacks personal honor and is unworthy of a job with as much juice as the Tenn job.
It was all there, prior to the hiring.
If Tenn Admin ignored it, shame on them and they deserve what they get.
I do NOT blame the average VOL fan for hopping aboard the KIFFEN train, that's what fans do, they circle the wagons.
Every other fanbase in the conference would do the same.
But let's not pretend Kiffen wasn't a known quantity.
And it looks like Tenn football is in good hands now, and you Vols can move on.
As for Tenn basketball, I'm unqualified to offer an opinion.
He is the CFB equivalent of a GRIFTER.
He lacks personal honor and is unworthy of a job with as much juice as the Tenn job.
It was all there, prior to the hiring.
If Tenn Admin ignored it, shame on them and they deserve what they get.
I do NOT blame the average VOL fan for hopping aboard the KIFFEN train, that's what fans do, they circle the wagons.
Every other fanbase in the conference would do the same.
But let's not pretend Kiffen wasn't a known quantity.
And it looks like Tenn football is in good hands now, and you Vols can move on.
As for Tenn basketball, I'm unqualified to offer an opinion.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:34 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
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He's proven he is an excellent recruiter
The NCAA LOA agrees with this.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:36 pm to GoBigOrange86
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I thought then and still think now that Kiffin is a good coach.
I think he's good with quarterbacks but I haven't seen any evidence he's a good head coach. His teams have let down games and his best game ever is probably a close loss to alabama
To me that sounds more like charlie weiss than bob stoops
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:36 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
quote:But he can put together a very good staff.
Kiffin has done nothing to show he's a good coach. He's proven he is an excellent recruiter, but not a good coach.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:37 pm to Lsupimp
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Kiffen was a known quantity when Tenn hired him.
He is the CFB equivalent of a GRIFTER.
He lacks personal honor and is unworthy of a job with as much juice as the Tenn job.
It was all there, prior to the hiring.
If Tenn Admin ignored it, shame on them and they deserve what they get.
I do NOT blame the average VOL fan for hopping aboard the KIFFEN train, that's what fans do, they circle the wagons.
Every other fanbase in the conference would do the same.
But let's not pretend Kiffen wasn't a known quantity.
And it looks like Tenn football is in good hands now, and you Vols can move on.
As for Tenn basketball, I'm unqualified to offer an opinion.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:38 pm to molsusports
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I think he's good with quarterbacks but I haven't seen any evidence he's a good head coach. His teams have let down games and his best game ever is probably a close loss to alabama
To me that sounds more like charlie weiss than bob stoops
Unless the NCAA prevents it, Kiffin will eventually have to much talent and too good of a staff not to have a good amount of success, at least at the college level.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:38 pm to ohiovol
That staff didn't do a damn thing at UT, nor has it done anything at SC. I'll wait until they prove it on the field to name his staff's the end all be all.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:39 pm to ohiovol
Agreed.
Another thing he's good at...
BREAKING THE RULES!!!
Another thing he's good at...
BREAKING THE RULES!!!
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:39 pm to gatordmb89
quote:Disagree with the first part, and as far as the second part, they won't be able to do too much until USC's NCAA issues pass.
Tennessee Allegations Released
That staff didn't do a damn thing at UT, nor has it done anything at SC. I'll wait until they prove it on the field to name his staff's the end all be all.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 12:39 pm to ohiovol
He hasn't had a #1 recruiting class yet.
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