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re: Teams with legit shot to win CFP every year
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:05 pm to RandySavage
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:05 pm to RandySavage
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Sorry dude, outside of 2019 LSU has been largely irrelevant on the national scene for 12 years now. They are squarely in the list of program capable of getting there though.
2003 , 2007, 2019 NC’s for LSU. How many other programs have won 3 and played for 4 NC’s during that same time outside of BAMA, which unfortunately LSU has to play every year. Up into the last two years, Georgia did not win any NC’s, and now they have 2. So how did you come up with Georgia HAS LEGIT SHOT EVERY YEAR?
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:11 pm to Swampcat
Ohio State has won two and played for five so they're on that list as well.
Here's my qualm with LSU. They seem more likely to have 3-5 losses than to have 1-2 and be in the conversation. 12 of the last 15 seasons they've had that many losses. Now, I agree that the talent is always there and maybe the coaching is as well now but being really good consistently has not happened. It's been boom or bust and most seasons in the last 15 years have leaned more towards the bust side.
Here's my qualm with LSU. They seem more likely to have 3-5 losses than to have 1-2 and be in the conversation. 12 of the last 15 seasons they've had that many losses. Now, I agree that the talent is always there and maybe the coaching is as well now but being really good consistently has not happened. It's been boom or bust and most seasons in the last 15 years have leaned more towards the bust side.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:16 pm to XWing atAliciousness
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Nothing says "in better shape" quite like MNC's
FIFY
In the modern poll Era
7 = Oklahoma
4 = Utx - austin
7 > 4 to anybody with a 3rd grade education
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Preseason unranked --> end of season ranked is "overhyped"?
Since say WW II and the rise of the state schools. I realize a whippersnapper like you thinks you know it all, but I am old and actually lived through it
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couldn't get into Texas
Not sure where this came from. Pretty sure I could have easily gotten into Utx - austin as the 5 schools who accepted me were all better academic institutions. Utx - austin would have been slumming it for me academically.
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bitter about it 70 years later
I am not bitter, just happy to expose the truth that Utx fans seem to want to ignore from drinking all that Burnt Orange KoolAid.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:16 pm to Cheese Grits
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I could be wrong but pretty sure UGA missed at least 2 FG's just in the 2nd half and think they missed on in the first
You're wrong.
They missed one in the first half and one in the second.
Ohio State missed one in the second half.
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2 FG = 6 points
(meaning tOSU must go for the end zone, not a FG at the end)
3 FG's = 9 points
(meaning tOSU can not win even with a late TD)
This is wrong. See above.
It's a 3 point difference.
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Were you watching the game?
Yes. Were you?
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Best win of the season for Georgia was probably against UT when the Vols still had Hooker.
It wasn't.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:17 pm to Cheese Grits
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I could be wrong but pretty sure UGA missed at least 2 FG's just in the 2nd half and think they missed on in the first
Not to mention on the drive leading to that first missed FG, Stet pulled the ball back from McIntosh, who had nothing but blue sky between him and the endzone. That's a 7 point swing right out of the gate.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:18 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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They missed one in the first half and one in the second.
You better believe it.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:21 pm to RandySavage
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Sorry dude, outside of 2019 LSU has been largely irrelevant on the national scene for 12 years now. They are squarely in the list of program capable of getting there though.
What LSU has is the highest per capita in state talent. Saban even said this years ago and that is a real competitive edge, especially as there is no other P5 school in the state. As example
CA has (4) P5 schools
TX has (3) P5 schools
FL has (3) P5 schools
MI has (2) P 5 schools
LA and OH have the built in advantage of only 1 P5 in state school
For this reason alone, LSU has a legit shot year after year the same way Ohio State does.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:26 pm to VABuckeye
Good points VABuckeye. I would agree with that.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:28 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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They missed one in the first half and one in the second.
Then use my 6 point example
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Ohio State missed one in the second half.
The one at the end of the game?
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It's a 3 point difference
So by your own statement
+ 3 points for UGA in 1st half
+ 3 points for UGA in 2nd half
= 6 points
UGA won by 1 point, so add 6 and they are winning by 7 just before tOSU kicks their last second FG, correct?
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It wasn't.
Says you, and that it your BuckNuts opinion. I am not always drinking the Columbus KoolAid and my opinion say it was Tennessee. The game may have been settled earlier but the Vols (with Hooker) beat BuckNuts worse than MeatChicken did.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:30 pm to Cheese Grits
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Then use my 6 point example
Nope. If Georgia gets credit for missed field goals, so does Ohio State.
It's 3 points or it's nothing. Those are your options.
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UGA won by 1 point, so add 6 and they are winning by 7 just before tOSU kicks their last second FG, correct?
If Georgia makes both field goals, they're driving the field with a tied score, not down by 6.
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Says you, and that it your BuckNuts opinion. I am not always drinking the Columbus KoolAid and my opinion say it was Tennessee. The game may have been settled earlier but the Vols (with Hooker) beat BuckNuts worse than MeatChicken did.
Says anyone without an agenda to push.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:31 pm to Cheese Grits
quote:So championships that are won in the 50s are relevant to how a team does today? Does this mean Princeton is in better shape than Georgia and Alabama?
FIFY
In the modern poll Era
7 = Oklahoma
4 = Utx - austin
7 > 4 to anybody with a 3rd grade education
You said "better shape" as in moving forward. I don't know how Oklahoma not winning a championship more recently than Texas and getting blown out in the last head-to-head matchup against Texas is "better shape", but we all know this is from your mysterious bitterness against Texas while dick-riding 10 other teams like a creepy uncle who nobody wants to be around.
quote:Actually, that's just your dementia
Since say WW II and the rise of the state schools. I realize a whippersnapper like you thinks you know it all, but I am old and actually lived through it
quote:You just admitted that it took you until 3rd grade to figure out that 7 was a higher number than 4, so I beg to differ
Not sure where this came from. Pretty sure I could have easily gotten into Utx - austin as the 5 schools who accepted me were all better academic institutions. Utx - austin would have been slumming it for me academically.
quote:Yet you post on basically every single Texas-related topic with the same drivel, and everybody laughs at your old arse.
I am not bitter, just happy to expose the truth that Utx fans seem to want to ignore from drinking all that Burnt Orange KoolAid.
Take another nap. You're getting bodied once again.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:34 pm to Swampcat
Because in the CFP era UGA has been there three times, won two, lost in OT in one and come very close to making it other years. LSU has never sniffed a playoff outside of 2019.
Also see trends in recruiting. When LSU stacks top 3 classes on top of each other they might re-enter the conversation. Like I said, they are in the handful of schools for whom that is a real possibility.
Also see trends in recruiting. When LSU stacks top 3 classes on top of each other they might re-enter the conversation. Like I said, they are in the handful of schools for whom that is a real possibility.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Says anyone without an agenda to push.
Better than "Says anyone without a CFP trophy since the Obama administration"
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:35 pm to Swampcat
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2003 , 2007, 2019 NC’s for LSU. How many other programs have won 3 and played for 4 NC’s during that same time outside of BAMA, which unfortunately LSU has to play every year. Up into the last two years, Georgia did not win any NC’s, and now they have 2. So how did you come up with Georgia HAS LEGIT SHOT EVERY YEAR?
UGA has played in 3 CFP NC games, LSU has played in 1.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:40 pm to VoxDawg
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Better than "Says anyone without a CFP trophy since the Obama administration"
You're new money.
You'll get better at it.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:43 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Says anyone without an agenda to push.
Which is why it is said, to keep the local KoolAid crowd honest lest they begin to actually believe that which is not true.
BuckNuts played a weak schedule
They lost (at home) to Michigan and game was not close
They did not play in a CCG
By this logic they had no reason to be in the playoff in the first place. I am not saying Ohio State does not deserve to be in the polls, they do have strikes against them that would not work well with the committee.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:43 pm to armtackledawg
Oregon should be there.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:44 pm to Cheese Grits
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Cheese Grits
K.
Well, at least you moved away from your garbage points about missed field goals.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:54 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Texas has the talent to be on the list......but not the coach. When Sark gets fired after next season, we have a chance to hire a coach that will make us a contender for the playoffs. Until then, as long as we have Sark, we will struggle with the conundrum that is beating Texas Tech and Okla St in the same season.
Isn't this the 3rd coach in a row that UT fans have said this about?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:01 pm to armtackledawg
put Oregon on this list, and Penn State as well
Oregon, backed by Nike, will have enough NIL $$ to compete
Mich State; FSU; Florida; Auburn and even Wisconsin and aTm probably deserve to be on here as well
Oregon, backed by Nike, will have enough NIL $$ to compete
Mich State; FSU; Florida; Auburn and even Wisconsin and aTm probably deserve to be on here as well
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