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re: Teams with legit shot to win CFP every year
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:23 am to Hugh McElroy
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:23 am to Hugh McElroy
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If you're talking about current resources, coaches, and recruits, then of course A&M belongs on the list.
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:24 am to Between TheHedges
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Between NIL leveraging the recruit buying playing field and Saban retiring soon, in about 5-10 years they will no longer be on this exclusive list
Bama will adjust as always. Will be some lean years post Saban, but across all levels of the university and it's administration they're all-in.
Bama is in as good as position as any other university because of that, even without Saban.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:25 am to VoxDawg
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Bama must get the post-Saban hire exactly right, or will spend 10 years in the wilderness
If by wilderness you mean Top 10 program that wins 9-10 games every year and competes for the big prize every few years, sure.
If by wilderness you mean 6-6 Mike Shula/Mike DuBose probation era stuff
Les Miles rode the Nick Saban machine for 3 straight Top 5 seasons before the eroded away and it became his program entirely (in which he had a great class in 2010/2011 and outside of that was a 3-4 loss team). Whoever takes over for Saban, and I trust the guy who hired Nate Oats to hire someone is good at their job, will walk into a program with a top 3 national roster and an infrastructure second to nobody but maybe Georgia.
The only time in the past 75 years where Alabama has been a 5-6 loss program is when it had crippling scholarship reductions, and even then it would pump out a Top 10 team every 3rd year. Expecting that to happen when Saban leaves is pure silliness.
Alabama finished ranked in the Top 20 5 of the 7 seasons of the "horrible" post-Bryant/pre-Stallings era of the 1980s. And Bryant left Perkins a pretty bare cupboard upon retirement, unlike what Saban will leave.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 10:32 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:25 am to armtackledawg
I don't see how we're still on that list...
ETA: Dabo without a Venables caliber DC and unchanged offensive staff and refusal to adapt to CFB changes don't have me booking any trips to the natty...
ETA: Dabo without a Venables caliber DC and unchanged offensive staff and refusal to adapt to CFB changes don't have me booking any trips to the natty...
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 10:27 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:26 am to VoxDawg
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Bama must get the post-Saban hire exactly right, or will spend 10 years in the wilderness. Dabo is the only option, yes?
Perhaps
Or they could hire Kliff Kingsbury to replace Bill O as OC and then make Kliff the head coach in waiting
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:27 am to Mulkey Man
current resources: all people do is talk about how much A&M is willing to spend to finally bring the program to the top.
recruits: We routinely finish in the top 10, often much higher, including the highest rated recruiting class of all time. Our team talent composite is higher than most teams on that list.
coaches: Jimbo Fisher has won a title. Kelly has never won a major bowl that wasn't agains Purdue.
recruits: We routinely finish in the top 10, often much higher, including the highest rated recruiting class of all time. Our team talent composite is higher than most teams on that list.
coaches: Jimbo Fisher has won a title. Kelly has never won a major bowl that wasn't agains Purdue.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:28 am to Between TheHedges
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Perhaps
Or they could hire Kliff Kingsbury to replace Bill O as OC and then make Kliff the head coach in waiting
And just like Mike DuBose and Mike Shula, he'd win 10 games and be in the expanded playoffs.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:37 am to Hugh McElroy
current aggy resources
current aggy recruits
current aggy coach
same old aggy results
current aggy recruits
current aggy coach
same old aggy results
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:49 am to armtackledawg
In the playoff era the worst team in talent composite to win a national championship was 9th. No Big 12 or Pac 12 schools have won.
So I'm going to say you have to be top 10 in talent and play in the SEC / B1G / ACC to win.
So I'm going to say you have to be top 10 in talent and play in the SEC / B1G / ACC to win.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:52 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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we will struggle with the conundrum that is beating Texas Tech and Okla St in the same season.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:55 am to armtackledawg
Who has won more national championships than Alabama the past 20 years or so?
LSU
LSU
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:57 am to Swampcat
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Who has won more national championships than Alabama the past 20 years or so?
LSU
Wait, what
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:57 am to VoxDawg
Kirby will walk to Ttown.. Havent you heard?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:57 am to Swampcat
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Who has won more national championships than Alabama the past 20 years or so?
LSU
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:58 am to GamecockUltimate
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Oklahoma, Michigan, have been the mainstays.
Both schools can frick themselves in the ear until their tiny brains rattle. Win a CFP semi first, then talk to us about being contenders.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:58 am to armtackledawg
Right now...
Georgia
Alabama
Ohio State
That's the list, and Ohio State is a stretch.
Georgia
Alabama
Ohio State
That's the list, and Ohio State is a stretch.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:03 am to Hugh McElroy
You are so fricking stupid when it comes to LSU and comparison to your mediocre at best football program. frick off fig
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:03 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If by wilderness you mean Top 10 program that wins 9-10 games every year and competes for the big prize every few years, sure.
I'm thinking that this is the possibility if they nail a homerun hire. Better than Auburn's twice a decade contenders, but it's folly to believe that whomever comes in will be able to match Saban's ability to develop NFL talent and steamroll CFB as a whole.
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If by wilderness you mean 6-6 Mike Shula/Mike DuBose probation era stuff
It's not as far fetched a prospect as you assume. Superior coaching of Saban-signed talent will keep them in the hunt, but if his successor isn't able to keep the recruiting train going, much less being able to coach up the players, that 6-6 scenario isn't off the table.
That Saban momentum is only going to last for 2-3 years, tops without an epic coach on the sidelines. You're not going to be able to afford to miss on The Guy After THE GUY and there not be years-long ramifications.
ETA - It's worth mentioning that in a 12 team CFP, that 9-10 win threshold should absolutely be enough to make the field. What will remain outstanding is what happens with respect to results.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:07 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:04 am to VoxDawg
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It's not as far fetch a prospect as you assume
Yes, it is. The only time in the history of the program we've been a "6-6/7-5" program was when we were on the 2nd of multiple probations that also meant we had a below average coaching staff. And even then we sandwiched in a 10 win, Top 10 season in there. So yea, it's a pretty far off prospect to think we're going to turn into a 6-6 program.
The most likely scenario is we hire a very solid replacement, remain at the elite top for 2-3 years and then fall into the very solid but not elite every single season category and recruiting drops from Top 3 every year to Top 10 every year and Top 5 sometimes.
The only way we turn into some sad sack program is if we hire an absolute disaster who pisses away everything Saban built in 2-3 years and then hits rock bottom in year 4 and guts the roster. I have full faith in our AD, who has a fantastic track record of hiring coaches in big sports, to make a solid (or even better than that) hire to replace Saban.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:09 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:05 am to armtackledawg
Legit shot every single year?
UGA and Bama
Tempted to out Ohio State but honestly most years no.
Potential any given year to have a good enough team
Ohio State, LSU, Clemson,
UGA and Bama
Tempted to out Ohio State but honestly most years no.
Potential any given year to have a good enough team
Ohio State, LSU, Clemson,
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