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Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:54 am to Ag Zwin
This will send TCU back to the cellar. Pretty shameful way to treat Patterson, even if his teams have struggled a bit the past few seasons. If it wasn't for him, TCU would still be in C-USA.
Schools like TCU need a reality check before they do things like this:
TCU is a tiny school with just 11,000 students, half the size of the next smallest Big 12 university (Baylor at 21k), and just 1/5th the size of the University of Texas. TCU also has the smallest stadium, seating just 45k and beats only Kansas in home attendance averages.
Prior to Patterson, TCU had absolutely no football tradition: from 1939 until Patterson took over the program in 2000, TCU had zero 10-win seasons
. Patterson delivered 12 10-win seasons, including an undefeated season, in a 20-year window.
And although TCU is in a nice location, it is also situated in the Longhorns' and Aggies' backyard. Not to mention that they are also competing for each and every recruit with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Baylor, Texas Tech, and SMU. Those are uphill battles with exception of maybe Tech (Lubbock, ew) and SMU (mirror image school). TCU's footprint extends about 50 feet outside of its own campus, at best.
They are absolutely screwed unless they can swing a coaching hire of biblical proportions.
Schools like TCU need a reality check before they do things like this:
TCU is a tiny school with just 11,000 students, half the size of the next smallest Big 12 university (Baylor at 21k), and just 1/5th the size of the University of Texas. TCU also has the smallest stadium, seating just 45k and beats only Kansas in home attendance averages.
Prior to Patterson, TCU had absolutely no football tradition: from 1939 until Patterson took over the program in 2000, TCU had zero 10-win seasons
. Patterson delivered 12 10-win seasons, including an undefeated season, in a 20-year window. And although TCU is in a nice location, it is also situated in the Longhorns' and Aggies' backyard. Not to mention that they are also competing for each and every recruit with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Baylor, Texas Tech, and SMU. Those are uphill battles with exception of maybe Tech (Lubbock, ew) and SMU (mirror image school). TCU's footprint extends about 50 feet outside of its own campus, at best.
They are absolutely screwed unless they can swing a coaching hire of biblical proportions.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:55 am to twk
If he wants another job he can probably find one. UNC hired Mack Brown at 67, and Nick Saban wasn't much younger when he got hired at Alabama. That being said, I doubt he takes one and if he did, I doubt it goes all that well. He seems like he'd rather whine about the other team than coach these days
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:56 am to BreakawayZou83
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And although TCU is in a nice location, it is also situated in the Longhorns' and Aggies' backyard. Not to mention that they are also competing for each and every recruit with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Baylor, Texas Tech, and SMU. Those are uphill battles with exception of maybe Tech (Lubbock, ew) and SMU (mirror image school). TCU's footprint extends about 50 feet outside of its own campus, at best.
tl;dr: TCU is UAB with a better coat of paint, and I agree with you
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:00 am to Ag Zwin
It once was in the Big 12 if you lost to Kansas you were fired. Now if you lose to Texas you’re fired.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:01 am to BreakawayZou83
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Prior to Patterson, TCU had absolutely no football tradition:
I wouldn't say they had no football tradition.
They had the first ever Heisman winner (Davey O'Brien)
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:01 am to Ag Zwin
He was the Longhorns' only victory in the month of October, so that's pretty good evidence that their football team is not good, and after 20 years, it's probably time to start a rebuild.
TCU has the resources to get that done if they hire the right person that wants to be there and not use the place as a stepping stone. It won't be Jeff Traylor as we also learned this weekend
TCU has the resources to get that done if they hire the right person that wants to be there and not use the place as a stepping stone. It won't be Jeff Traylor as we also learned this weekend
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:02 am to Bama Bird
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If he wants another job he can probably find one.
They say he was seen in Gainesville this past week.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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They had the first ever Heisman winner (Davey O'Brien)
Uhhhhhh……no.
That belongs to Jay Berwanger of the football powerhouse U of Chicago.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 9:06 am
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:03 am to Ag Zwin
LSU should offer him
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:04 am to Sid E Walker
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Someone will snag him.
LSU?
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:10 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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I wouldn't say they had no football tradition.
They had the first ever Heisman winner (Davey O'Brien)
Fine. From World War II until Patterson stepped in, TCU was one of the worst programs in college football. True that they had some success in the 1930s. But by that metric, Santa Clara, Fordham, and Duke have an enduring football tradition.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:11 am to Skyler97
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Also I saw in his interview that it was mutual.
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TCU has fired Gary Patterson
That doesn't sound very mutual.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:13 am to GentleJackJones
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Wow. I thought he was going to get a statue there or have the field named after him. He’s been there 20+ years.
College Football has become a rotten job. Past accomplishments mean nothing, and there's no longer room for "down years".
School spirit isn't a thing anymore, and CFB fans are basically the same as pro fans now. There's a reason these men really have no loyalty to schools now. The schools, players, and fans have no particular loyalty. Why should they? I really can't blame coaches for being mercenaries anymore.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:16 am to BreakawayZou83
quote:I know TCU is P5 and SMU isn't, without Patterson coaching TCU there is no way I'd go to TCU over SMU on a CFB scholarship.
Those are uphill battles with exception of maybe Tech (Lubbock, ew) and SMU (mirror image school).
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:17 am to Skyler97
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Also I saw in his interview that it was mutual.
Not mutual. TCU tried to pull an LSU and fire Patterson now but not effective until end of season. Patterson said "frick that" and left immediately.
Therefore the university is trying to spin it as "mutual."
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:17 am to Che Boludo
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2 decades in an all offense, all the time conference
CUSA ?
MWC ?
B12 ?
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:20 am to Bama Bird
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TCU is UAB with a better coat of paint
What? TCU is a private school with a fairly rich alum base behind them, as well as a long history and prestige. UAB is an insti-university that has such low fan support, the football program was killed off. UAB basically IS it's medical school. Take that away, and it's a daytime community college for working commuter students from the Birmingham suburbs. FFS, TCU has a bigger endowment than all of the UA system schools put together.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:21 am to GatorOnAnIsland
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They say he was seen in Gainesville this past week.
Lord please no. Hopefully he's just getting some coochie from Megan while passing through town.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:28 am to DesScorp
It was an insult directed towards TCU
Obviously TCU is more comparable to Rice, SMU or Tulane
Obviously TCU is more comparable to Rice, SMU or Tulane
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